Back again, unfortunately

[mts]

I actually find your posts interesting.

[Victimorthecrime]

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[Guest ChinaDoll]

When I leave the house, I see white people everywhere. Probably half of the world's population is white. Unless I dunno what you mean by "white", you pretty much have me scratching my head.

I'm gonna shut up now.

[TooOld4This]

I think you're overreacting, inf_rad (unless i'm misunderstanding you)

Yes, MOST women are MORE attracted to alpha males,

just as MOST men are MORE attracted to slender beautiful women.

Both genders (that's all of us, folks)

are indeed hardwired by evolution for SHALLOWNESS.

But it doesn't have to be our fate, inf_rad; we have the power to choose.

Ever ask a chubby girl out on a date?

Ever ignore a chubby girl's weight,

and compliment her on her pretty hair, or her smile, or her voice?

We don't have to unquestioningly follow the push of our instincts.

Evolution happened a long, long, long, LONG time ago.

If we sensitive men don't like the gender standards imposed by evolution

(and preserved, not coincidentally, by TV and music videos and magazines),

then we sensitive men can start a new evolution,

by treating nonstandard women as attractive.

(and BTW, single women, i wrote this for men, but this is for you, too.

Alpha males -- ever notice how they're the selfish uncommunicative ones?

Maybe they're not really so hot after all.)

[infrared_radiation]

80-90% of my experience with women has been with chubby girls. If you'd reversed the question and said ever ask a skinny attractive girl on a date, I would probably have to answer no: I know what's out of my league.

I do not want this thread to turn into the last thread. I really don't want to go on and on and on and on. I've probably said too much already.

[infrared_radiation]

It just goes on, and on, and on, and on. The same old cycle of mental torture.

Seeing black men with white women while out in public, a lot. Within the past two days I must have seen about 6 or 7 or 8 such couples, and I'm not exaggerating. And that's just within two days... if you count the amount I've seen over weeks, months... I'm not even out that much in areas where I'm likely to see them.

Over the years, I have seen hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of white women with black men.

Then going home and going on my computer and seeing porn of black men having sex with white women.

Again, I must have seen hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of porn videos of black men having sex with white women.

It's been like this for years. Years and years and years and fucking years, going all the way back to at least 2009 if not earlier.

I'm just surprised there are not more white men who don't feel that same way that I do.

Is it any wonder I'm depressed, when I'm trapped in a body I hate?

Is it any wonder I have the same constant feelings of depression, low self-esteem, and worthlessness?

I'm just about at breaking point mentally. Almost at the point where I want to do something unspeakably crazy.

I also have no one to talk to about it, either, except on the internet.

[infrared_radiation]

How am I expected to have self-esteem?

How am I expected to have any inner strength?

Why are there not more people who have come to the same conclusions that I have?

When I was growing up, without even thinking about it, I took the social dominance of white men for granted.

It was white men that conquered most of the world historically, and white men that created the most prosperous societies in the world with the highest standards of living.

Taking these facts into account, I never could have imagined that significant numbers of white women would ever choose non-white men, especially not black men. And if any white women did go for black men, they would only be the unattractive, fat and ugly ones.

But then, I had hardly met any black people at all before the age of about 18 (this was in 2005) and didn't really know much about them.

In the ten years since then, a lot has changed. Throughout the world, attitudes to race have changed a lot in ten years. Not only that, but at least where I live, the numbers of non-white people have mushroomed to huge numbers due to immigration.

When I was a child, or even when I was a teenager, I felt that white men were "socially dominant".

Now, I feel the opposite.

There must have been some kind of "psychological reframing".

I've had a hard life as it is - I have had many problems in my life, my life has been quite an unhappy one and lots of people have been very nasty and unkind to me over the years - and now I have this fucking shit on top of it to deal with.

[Guest ChinaDoll]

I dunno where you live but I bet that if you go to former colony countries, white men are still regarded as racially superior. Just a fact of life I wanted to share.

[infrared_radiation]

Are you a female of Asian / Chinese descent? (As your name would suggest)

Maybe white men are looked up to in Asia, but in the West - not just North America but Europe too - white men are rejected en masse by the white women that live around them, who favour black or other non-white males.

[TooOld4This]

inf_rad, i think you're overreacting for two reasons:

(1) black men with white women is a sign of PROGRESS, not decline. Brothers used to get lynched if they went on a date with a white girl (or even if somebody falsely accused them of doing so). We haven't beaten racism completely, not by a long shot; but at least that miscegenation stuff is in the past, and good riddance.

(2) so what if a few brothers got a few white girlfriends? I assume none of them took YOUR girlfriend, inf_rad. So it isn't your problem.

I realize there's this myth, created mainly by porn and the KKK, that white women somehow consider brothers to be manlier and sexually superior to white men. Don't assume, inf_rad, that all (or most) white women think this. Seriously -- are you going to get your ideas about masculinity from PORN AND HATE GROUPS???!? Really??? It's nonsense, inf_rad; don't buy into it. It'll burn your mind like a blowtorch.

It could be, inf_rad, that some women really go for a guy of a different race because they find the difference exciting.

Last fall, i went to Nigeria, and to my surprise, i was a lust object. Young black women were pawing me like i was ripe fruit. Because i was a novelty. Yeah, Kanye West and his fellow douchebags will claim that black women would NEVER prefer white men. Well, i've been to Africa (which i doubt KW & HFD have), and i know that's not true. Hope this helps.

So, to recap: black men are a turn-on for some white women, and white men are a turn-on for some black women. Personally, i'm glad women are as open-minded as that. Maybe you could start thinking about flirting with some sisters.

One thing that does piss me off, though: brothers who only have sex with white women, and white guys who only have sex with Asian women. That attitude is based on a mindset of "i'm only turned on by women i can physically intimidate and dominate." Those guys -- f**k them.

[Guest ChinaDoll]

I agree with what TO4T said except

One thing that does piss me off, though: brothers who only have sex with white women, and white guys who only have sex with Asian women. That attitude is based on a mindset of "i'm only turned on by women i can physically intimidate and dominate." Those guys -- f**k them.

Them guys probably just have some self-esteem issues as well.

[infrared_radiation]

inf_rad, i think you're overreacting for two reasons:

(1) black men with white women is a sign of PROGRESS, not decline. Brothers used to get lynched if they went on a date with a white girl (or even if somebody falsely accused them of doing so). We haven't beaten racism completely, not by a long shot; but at least that miscegenation stuff is in the past, and good riddance.

(2) so what if a few brothers got a few white girlfriends? I assume none of them took YOUR girlfriend, inf_rad. So it isn't your problem.

I realize there's this myth, created mainly by porn and the KKK, that white women somehow consider brothers to be manlier and sexually superior to white men. Don't assume, inf_rad, that all (or most) white women think this. Seriously -- are you going to get your ideas about masculinity from PORN AND HATE GROUPS???!? Really??? It's nonsense, inf_rad; don't buy into it. It'll burn your mind like a blowtorch.

It could be, inf_rad, that some women really go for a guy of a different race because they find the difference exciting.

Last fall, i went to Nigeria, and to my surprise, i was a lust object. Young black women were pawing me like i was ripe fruit. Because i was a novelty. Yeah, Kanye West and his fellow douchebags will claim that black women would NEVER prefer white men. Well, i've been to Africa (which i doubt KW & HFD have), and i know that's not true. Hope this helps.

So, to recap: black men are a turn-on for some white women, and white men are a turn-on for some black women. Personally, i'm glad women are as open-minded as that. Maybe you could start thinking about flirting with some sisters.

One thing that does piss me off, though: brothers who only have sex with white women, and white guys who only have sex with Asian women. That attitude is based on a mindset of "i'm only turned on by women i can physically intimidate and dominate." Those guys -- f**k them.

Thanks for your response.

I suppose things are different in America. It's a different culture on the other side of the ocean. Here, there was basically no historical racism because historically, virtually everyone here was white.

Of course I don't assume that all white women think like that. Your point about "porn and hate groups" is a fair one though. Probably. Some of the themes in porn are ridiculous, true, no doubt about that. And of course, porn is staged and all that. Yet there are still women out there that are willing to perform in it.

You say "it could be that some women really go for a guy of a different race because they find the difference exciting" and I don't entirely disagree that that's a factor. But from my own personal observations, a lot more white women go for non-white men than non-white women go for white men.

As I said, I don't live in America. I see white women with black men walking down the streets fairly regularly now. I have seen some white men with black women, but definitely a lot less (maybe 25% of the BM/WF numbers). It's also possible to see other ethnic mixes. I even saw one white woman recently wearing a headscarf with an Asian Muslim husband and kids - that was a first. White women will even go for Chinese guys over white men. Anything but white men.

In fact, to be quite honest, my social life is not that great, period.

I just have this recurring cycle of self-hatred. Being a white heterosexual male is depressing as hell. It depresses me every day, when I'm at work and when I'm at home.

Oh fuck, this is just turning into the last thread... sigh... well, if so, so be it.

One thing's for sure: I have a deep-seated problem with my self-image, how I see myself, how I see my masculinity, and how I see myself sexually, and how I see the position of white men as a group, sexually. If that makes any sense. I have a problem with viewing white men as being masculine at all in the sexual sense. I hate the colour of my skin and the colour of my penis and it depresses me so much.

[Guest ChinaDoll]

You say "it could be that some women really go for a guy of a different race because they find the difference exciting" and I don't entirely disagree that that's a factor. But from my own personal observations, a lot more white women go for non-white men than non-white women go for white men.

Totally false.

You need to move to effing South America or Asia, RIGHT NOW!

[infrared_radiation]

Totally false.

You need to move to effing South America or Asia, RIGHT NOW!

And leave my job, mortgage, family, and so on behind to go to a different part of the world where I've never been to where I don't know what my prospects will be and don't know anyone?

Don't be ridiculous.

[Guest ChinaDoll]

Infrared, it was just a thought. You guys don't really need to do what I say. If it was offensive, it was probably the way I phrased it. Forgive me for the way I said it. I was in a rare high moment. You are completely right though. Moving entails a lot of difficulties and drawbacks. But there are also some positives. What they are, I'll let you decide since what I value might not be the same as yours. Its a hard option but is not an impossible one. But even if after you give it some serious thought you still think its a bad idea, then no harm done.

Klingsor, that comment was never meant to be malicious. If it hurt you in some way, then I apologize. You can ignore my comment and treat it as if it does not exist. Your voice is more important than mine.

[Guest ChinaDoll]

I would encourage you not to comment in that particular forum because your posts won't be taken well, even though I know you mean well.

I understand what you mean. I just couldn't help myself that one time because lumping together all women of the world is just a bit too harsh. To be fair though, I also do not like the same type of women but for completely different reasons skewing more towards an incompatibility in personality than anything else.

I think you might also find it incredibly offensive if I treated all of you like the person who hurt me (if you know my case, I'd rather not mention the R word) based solely on the premise that you were male.

And I shall stop here before I say something completely idiotic.

Sorry guys. Clashing opinions alert. Lol.

[TooOld4This]

Sorry you feel that way, inf_rad.

I don't think CDoll was recommending a complete relocation.

I think she meant, South America would give you a new perspective on race.

It might be a good vacation idea for you.

I've been to Brazil and Colombia, and i highly recommend both.

They're both multiracial cultures in which you would meet many people (including many Afro-Latina women) who would find your race exotic and interesting.

[infrared_radiation]

I don't know what else to say right now, but I read somewhere that most of the people on TV in South America are white, with many of those even being Nordic/northern European looking.

In contrast, North America and Europe feature a disproportionate amount of non-white people on TV and in advertising. It's almost like multi-racialism is being shoved in their faces deliberately.

Is Colombia not a dangerous country? From what I'm aware, like much of Latin America, it has serious problems with gang-related violence connected to the illegal drug trade.

[TooOld4This]

All right, inf_rad, I'll write it again:

i've BEEN TO Colombia and Brazil.

Who are you gonna believe -- some nameless article whose origin you don't even remember,

or someone who's actually been there?

You're probably thinking of Argentina and Chile,

where most of the people are descended from Italians, Spaniards, Germans, and Irish.

Colombia and Brazil, like my part of the USA,

have large Afro-Latin and mixed-race populations.

As for Colombia being dangerous:

that's Medellin and Cali you're thinking of.

I was in Cartagena, which is safe.

[infrared_radiation]

Yes, I am aware that Argentina, Chile and Uruguay have a largely European-descended population, whereas the rest of the population of South America is largely mixed between African, Amerindian and European-descended populations, although I am also aware that there are still a lot of white European descendants in Brazil, especially in the southern part of the country.

I have only met a handful of people from the entire continent of South America in my life... because there just ain't too many of them here.

[TooOld4This]

I see.

Well, as you might guess, it's different in the US.

I even had a girlfriend for awhile who was from South America (Peru).

But i expect you've met Europeans that i've never met.

Anyway, this was a digression.

the real point was,

people in these other countries don't think "caucasianness" is a defect.

It's just one difference in a world of differences.

That Peruvian girlfriend -- she liked the difference.

She especially liked that i had green eyes instead of the brown that she was used to.

So your race is nothing to be ashamed of,

and it wouldn't be if you were black, Asian, or native American, either.

It's all good. Diversity is beauty.

[whatever]

Hey man,

Watch this "your problem" from a different perspective. This earth exist for 5 bilions year there are milions of life forms here on Earth, we are just one of them, nothing special, our speciality is that we can think as long are organism is in function, it will expire one day, from dust to dust as someone said.

So why this "problem" of black men fucking a white women is such a problem?

Will that matter in 10000 years from now?

Was that a problem 2000 years ago?

Time is just passing by and you are losing your energy on watching how many white women are with black men. And how are they fucking.

None of that matter in the grand scheme of things. Only things that you should care for is YOU. Fuck all of this shit. These things such as race, fucking, politics, other people, all men are bastards and all women are whores, accept that and move on.

Try to imagine worst absurd scenario. Tommorow all white women are going to fuck black men, white men are going to stay home and jerk off. How's that sound? Does this still cause you anxiety?

In some post you mention how can white women choose white man, that is absurd to you right? You clearly don't have a clue how a women are "thinking". Go to reddit/redpill, thanks me later.

So this was my best shot in helping you my man.

As english is not my first language, this post might have some error or is generally confusing. But maybe that is just my confused mind.

I'm waiting for your reply Infrared radiation!!

[Victimorthecrime]

all men are bastards and all women are whores, accept that and move on.

Exactly.

[TooOld4This]

I don't agree with the last two posts, w'ever and VoBN1C.

I mean, you're entitled to your opinions, and mine certainly aren't any more brilliant than yours.

That said, i think you all are forgetting what the purpose of this forum is.

We don't do The Big Existential Questions of Life here; this is a place to unload our hurt feelings.

Yeah, in the long run, who's going to care what inf_rad feels about his own race.

In the long run it doesn't matter; HEY, NO KIDDING.

But this forum is a place for us to give voice to the tiny insecurities that give some of us pain every day.

That pain doesn't matter in the grand scheme of the universe, certainly.

But you know what? The pain is Issue #1 for that person for as long as the pain lasts.

So the rest of us try to ease the pain by being non-jugmental and comforting.

I'm not saying that what you wrote was out of line, or that you were jerks for posting it.

It just wasn't helpful.

Somewhere out there on the Web there's a chat room where people spend hours playing Jean-Paul Sartre.

Hope you find that chat room and have a good time there.

But here we do support and comfort.

[Guest ChinaDoll]

The day you can tell yourself to just shut up and move forward is the day you realize you are on the road to recovery.

When you've just had surgery or recently had some sort of wound or broken bone, you can't be expected to get up and run a marathon immediately. Its not impossible, but its not likely either.

On a different yet somehow related note,

I am amazed at that woman who ran and won a marathon a day after she gave birth. *winces* I forgot her name but wow. Just wow.