Endlessnight Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Hello. I'm on vacation and my depression really worsens during this time. I have too much time to think and do nothing - it's driving me crazy. I want to bang my head against a wall because I don't know what to do with myself. It doesn't help that I have money problems at these times, because of course I don't have an income when I'm on vacation. I've tried to find work to help get me through until schools re-open, but haven't had any luck. I want to be busy I don't want to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Hi, Endless, it's so good to 'see' you again - it was such a long time since your last 'visit'! I'm sorry you're struggling, even more, with depression again . It must be hard, this kind of change - from work to long vacations with "nothing to do". I wonder if there were some pleasant, or at least distracting, things you used to do previous years during your time off. Personally, I most often 'distract myself' by watching interesting or funny YouTube videos (like comedy sketches, TV series or excerpts thereof, TED talks, The School of life videos, educational videos, ...), but I'm not sure it's "the best thing to recommend"... Yet, you might try it at least sometimes (?). (I might send you some links with recommendations ("where to start") if you'd like.) And... what about posting here more often? It could perhaps also be a way how to spend some time without thinking too much depressively. Hugs, L. Endlessnight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endlessnight Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Hello Lala. It's nice to 'see' you again, too! I do watch videos, too many. I spend too much time online trying to prevent myself from thinking. I'm so tired, Lala. I want to let go to give in to stop being alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victimorthecrime Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Hi @Endlessnight good to see you here but sorry to hear you are struggling so much. I think I recall you having similar issues in the past. It is a shame, vacation is supposed to be fun! I have not had a vacation since around 1998. It's a tough life, it really is. It is going up to 100 degrees here today and I wish I was in a hotel near the beach or a cabin in the mountains, not this hot nasty city. I hope you think of something to occupy your mind like reading, walking, cooking, chatting, meditating or whatever is possible. LaLa and Endlessnight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endlessnight Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Victimorthecrime said: I wish I was in a hotel near the beach or a cabin in the mountains, not this hot nasty city. Me too! Hello Vic. How are you? It's very hot here too, and will only get hotter. The heat and humidity are always a problem for me - it drains me. We had a day where it reached 118 not so long ago! Victimorthecrime and LaLa 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victimorthecrime Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Wow 118 is insane. It got a 104 here a few times but that is rare. I am ok but just a little fed up w some of the same problems that never go away - job insecurity, house repairs needed, very little money, very little fun and lacking energy to really do anything about it. LaLa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Do you remember some leisure-time activities from the past that you could do now, too? It's exhausting when the weather is so awful, I can imagine that even if you can think of "something nice to do", it may be quite hard to actually do it . But there, hopefully, are some relaxing activities that don't involve physical involvement and don't leave you "alone with dark thoughts"... For instance, you might try to find a YouTube channel with guide to meditation (or (auto)hypnosis - it's not that different and hypnosis is perhaps even better, or, at least, easier) which would sound "suitable / fine" to you (there are many but some may not "fit" one's needs and personal preferences). I know it would be still involving the internet and you're already more or less bothered by spending too much time there, but it, since you find "the right" video, doesn't involve looking at the monitor, only listening with closed eyes, lying, relaxing... What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endlessnight Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, Victimorthecrime said: Wow 118 is insane. It got a 104 here a few times but that is rare. I am ok but just a little fed up w some of the same problems that never go away - job insecurity, house repairs needed, very little money, very little fun and lacking energy to really do anything about it. I know what you mean. It is hard to be happy when you have so much to worry about. I wish I had an answer to help you and me both. Victimorthecrime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endlessnight Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, LaLa said: Do you remember some leisure-time activities from the past that you could do now, too? It's exhausting when the weather is so awful, I can imagine that even if you can think of "something nice to do", it may be quite hard to actually do it . But there, hopefully, are some relaxing activities that don't involve physical involvement and don't leave you "alone with dark thoughts"... For instance, you might try to find a YouTube channel with guide to meditation (or (auto)hypnosis - it's not that different and hypnosis is perhaps even better, or, at least, easier) which would sound "suitable / fine" to you (there are many but some may not "fit" one's needs and personal preferences). I know it would be still involving the internet and you're already more or less bothered by spending too much time there, but it, since you find "the right" video, doesn't involve looking at the monitor, only listening with closed eyes, lying, relaxing... What do you think? I really need to do physical activities Lala, I'm in my brain too much. There aren't any that I can do here though. I can't go walking with the heat the way it is. I wish I could go walking in some cool green woods. I have tried watching meditation videos, but I always give up on them after a few times. How are you doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 I see... Perhaps there are some videos that teach some kind of exercising you could do inside, without too much physical effort needed (like... I don't know - Pilates? There must be more, I just don't know much about it...) Would you like to "vent" here a bit about your worries and financial struggles? (As you know, sometimes it's a bit alleviating to "let it all out"...) I'm doing relatively fine, thanks for asking. It's almost as hot here as at the place where Vic lives, so at the moment, this aspect of life is quite unpleasant, too... The media recommend to go at some public place (inside) with air conditioning and maybe we'll do it, but the way there seems discouraging to me. And everywhere I've been (= mainly supermarkets), the air conditioning is badly set - it's too cold and the huge temperature differences are not healthy either, so... I don't know (I think I'll let my husband decide ). Anyway, since the last time we 'talked' on-line, I have probably only one news: I finally (after all those years!) started volunteering at a local non-profit / NGO (which offers services mainly for immigrants, but also for the local population). It's only 4 hours a week , so not a big change in my everyday life, but I like it, learn new things, and get to know new people, which is nice. Victimorthecrime and Endlessnight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 BTW, a couple of videos to consider in case if you'd still like to watch YT sometimes : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrmaJean Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Hi, EN! 🙂 I'm sorry things continue to be difficult for you. I have a daughter with depression as well...life isn't easy and can be heartbreaking at times. Are there any exercises you could do at home? Tai chi or yoga? Sending my care to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 M., do you live where you used to or did you move in the meantime as you'd mentioned it some years (?) ago (that you were planning to move and you were afraid of the consequences)? If yes, how have you adapted to the new place? What is different there? And do you still live with your brother and his family? Sorry for too many questions, but I'm curious and looking forward to your news / to more things you would share . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endlessnight Posted July 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 Hello Beth. It's so nice to see you are still here. How are you? My boss messaged me today and asked me if I wanted to work during the vacation. I feel like new life has been given me! I have a reason to get up and do things. I will probably start in about two weeks, but I will be busy during that time getting everything done that I need to. I have to get tests done for my health, which I've been delaying. I have high cholesterol, vitamin D deficiency (something that almost all women here have because we don't go out enough, and when we do we are covered head to toe in black abayas), I also have hypothyrodism. So anyway I will do the tests for those things and then take them to the doctor. I already know my cholesterol is going to be very high because I have been eating anything and everything. I also have GERD and I still eat badly. It's like I'm trying to kill myself by not taking care of my health, but then I do the tests and go to the doc - I don't know why I bother, to be honest. Still, I have a purpose now, sort of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endlessnight Posted July 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 15 hours ago, LaLa said: M., do you live where you used to or did you move in the meantime as you'd mentioned it some years (?) ago (that you were planning to move and you were afraid of the consequences)? If yes, how have you adapted to the new place? What is different there? And do you still live with your brother and his family? Sorry for too many questions, but I'm curious and looking forward to your news / to more things you would share . Hi Lala. I still live in SA. with my brother and his family. Did you read that they have allowed women to drive here now? I have seen only a couple of women driving though, since the ban was lifted - June 20th, I think. I know none of the women in my family are going to drive. I'm definitely not - even if I could. I would probably fail the driving test because of my poor eyesight. There are a lot of things going on here that are not good for those of us that are foreigners living here. We have to pay a monthly fee of $80 per person. I just managed to pay my fee a few months ago, and will have to pay again soon. That beside the resident permit fee that we pay which is around $300 every year. That's why I'm so glad I am going back to work. Still, even if I manage to pay the fee this year, I won't be able to next year. They double the amount per person every year. Don't apologise for asking me questions. I'm glad you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endlessnight Posted July 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 On 7/2/2018 at 6:31 PM, LaLa said: I see... Perhaps there are some videos that teach some kind of exercising you could do inside, without too much physical effort needed (like... I don't know - Pilates? There must be more, I just don't know much about it...) Would you like to "vent" here a bit about your worries and financial struggles? (As you know, sometimes it's a bit alleviating to "let it all out"...) I'm doing relatively fine, thanks for asking. It's almost as hot here as at the place where Vic lives, so at the moment, this aspect of life is quite unpleasant, too... The media recommend to go at some public place (inside) with air conditioning and maybe we'll do it, but the way there seems discouraging to me. And everywhere I've been (= mainly supermarkets), the air conditioning is badly set - it's too cold and the huge temperature differences are not healthy either, so... I don't know (I think I'll let my husband decide ). Anyway, since the last time we 'talked' on-line, I have probably only one news: I finally (after all those years!) started volunteering at a local non-profit / NGO (which offers services mainly for immigrants, but also for the local population). It's only 4 hours a week , so not a big change in my everyday life, but I like it, learn new things, and get to know new people, which is nice. I'm glad to hear you are volunteering Lala. How do you like it? Do you think it is helping you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endlessnight Posted July 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 On 7/2/2018 at 9:33 PM, IrmaJean said: Hi, EN! 🙂 I'm sorry things continue to be difficult for you. I have a daughter with depression as well...life isn't easy and can be heartbreaking at times. Are there any exercises you could do at home? Tai chi or yoga? Sending my care to you. I'm sorry to hear about your daughter. It must be hard for her and for her family. I wish her well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Endlessnight said: How do you like it? Do you think it is helping you? Yes, I like it and it's "helping" me to some extent, too, although not as much as it probably would if I was volunteering more often (probably on other places, too - to have more diverse activities and people). But as it's summer, I'm no longer motivated to seek more opportunities because the walking regularly somewhere in the heat isn't appealing enough (= the idea is discouraging). Never mind. Hopefully in September... I'm so glad to hear that you can work again in a short time!! When I asked abut your moving or not, I didn't mean outside the SA, but to another part of it (you mentioned it quite a long time ago as a plan of your brother, but I don't know if it happened and don't remember any details, just that it would have been hard for to find work there). I didn't know about the terrible fees! Yes, I'd heard about the driving (I don't have a driver's licence either - it never even tempted me, on the contrary) - better than no change at all, but still it's too sad, or rather outrageous, how the rules in SA are set for most of people... ... I would still encourage you to find a way how to move to England, but I remember this isn't an idea you like to be remembered of , so... I'll try not to be persuading you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrmaJean Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 On 7/3/2018 at 10:04 AM, Endlessnight said: Hello Beth. It's so nice to see you are still here. How are you? My boss messaged me today and asked me if I wanted to work during the vacation. I feel like new life has been given me! I have a reason to get up and do things. I will probably start in about two weeks, but I will be busy during that time getting everything done that I need to. I have to get tests done for my health, which I've been delaying. I have high cholesterol, vitamin D deficiency (something that almost all women here have because we don't go out enough, and when we do we are covered head to toe in black abayas), I also have hypothyrodism. So anyway I will do the tests for those things and then take them to the doctor. I already know my cholesterol is going to be very high because I have been eating anything and everything. I also have GERD and I still eat badly. It's like I'm trying to kill myself by not taking care of my health, but then I do the tests and go to the doc - I don't know why I bother, to be honest. Still, I have a purpose now, sort of. I'm glad you feel some purpose now, M. I hope your time on the job goes well. Do you take vitamin D supplements or medication for low thyroid and high cholesterol? Can your cholesterol be helped by diet? Hypothyroidism can cause fatigue, that must make things difficult. Thank you for the well wishes. I am well, not without some life challenges, but staying strong. It's good to see you here. Take care, M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 On 7/3/2018 at 4:04 PM, Endlessnight said: vitamin D deficiency (something that almost all women here have because we don't go out enough, and when we do we are covered head to toe in black abayas) This reminds me of: Quote People with a vitamin D deficiency have a higher risk of contracting sepsis than most. Vitamin D deficiency has also been linked to an increased risk of getting an infection. from here: https://theconversation.com/i-nearly-died-from-sepsis-and-ignorance-of-this-condition-is-killing-millions-99051 I hope you take good care of yourself, M. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) How are you doing, M.? Today, in the framework of my volunteering, I talked (~50 minutes, by phone) with a woman (in her early 50ties) who, for several reasons, reminded me of you, M., although her situation wasn't as "dramatic" in the sense that she doesn't live in a dangerous country without social support, some of the basic human rights, affordable health care etc. (She was crying quite a lot, regretting her whole "lost" life (due to her upbringing, she's a bit similarly "stuck" in many ways, "not really knowing herself"), feeling like not really living, not knowing what to do to feel any better, ...) In the end (we talked also some 7 min. after the official "end of service" and, unfortunately, I couldn't extend it more because of the employees who had to close the place for the night), she was relatively calm and said it felt good to have cried and talked, but I'd like so much to talk to her tomorrow (which is rather improbable), mainly because I had some ideas about what to say after we finished (as it always happens, in my case). Anyway, since she felt better in the end, I was thinking about you, wondering if such kind of calls (not with me - with an Anglophone and, mainly, with someone more experienced and more helpful!) would be of some help to you, too. I know that international calls are crazily expensive, but there's a way to call for not a lot of money - by Skype: https://secure.skype.com/calling-rates?language=en This way, you might, if you wanted, call, for instance, to this British service (similar to the one we offer where I do the volunteering) : https://www.samaritans.org/how-we-can-help-you/contact-us Don't worry, I won't try to push you to do it ;-) ; I'm just presenting the possibility that occurred to me. Edited July 12, 2018 by LaLa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endlessnight Posted July 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 On 7/9/2018 at 10:59 PM, LaLa said: This reminds me of: from here: https://theconversation.com/i-nearly-died-from-sepsis-and-ignorance-of-this-condition-is-killing-millions-99051 I hope you take good care of yourself, M. ... Hi Lala. Thank you for the information. I finally did get around to doing the tests, and my Vitamin D isn't bad, but the doc said I should continue with the supplements he gave me: 50,000 IU, once every two weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endlessnight Posted July 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 On 7/13/2018 at 2:42 AM, LaLa said: How are you doing, M.? Today, in the framework of my volunteering, I talked (~50 minutes, by phone) with a woman (in her early 50ties) who, for several reasons, reminded me of you, M., although her situation wasn't as "dramatic" in the sense that she doesn't live in a dangerous country without social support, some of the basic human rights, affordable health care etc. (She was crying quite a lot, regretting her whole "lost" life (due to her upbringing, she's a bit similarly "stuck" in many ways, "not really knowing herself"), feeling like not really living, not knowing what to do to feel any better, ...) In the end (we talked also some 7 min. after the official "end of service" and, unfortunately, I couldn't extend it more because of the employees who had to close the place for the night), she was relatively calm and said it felt good to have cried and talked, but I'd like so much to talk to her tomorrow (which is rather improbable), mainly because I had some ideas about what to say after we finished (as it always happens, in my case). Anyway, since she felt better in the end, I was thinking about you, wondering if such kind of calls (not with me - with an Anglophone and, mainly, with someone more experienced and more helpful!) would be of some help to you, too. I know that international calls are crazily expensive, but there's a way to call for not a lot of money - by Skype: https://secure.skype.com/calling-rates?language=en This way, you might, if you wanted, call, for instance, to this British service (similar to the one we offer where I do the volunteering) : https://www.samaritans.org/how-we-can-help-you/contact-us Don't worry, I won't try to push you to do it ;-) ; I'm just presenting the possibility that occurred to me. Hi Lala. How are you? I'm a lot like you, in that I think of things to say or write after I've finished a conversation. I hope the lady you spoke to, felt better after the conversation you had with her. Holding a conversation with someone might help, but i'm afraid of it too, Lala. Writing about my feelings is one thing, actually talking to someone about it is very scary, for me. I want change, but at the same time it scares me to death. I will think about it though. (By the way, I know you are not pushing me into anything - big hugs ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Hi, M and thank you! I'm glad to hear your vitamin D is OK! (I'm very surprised, though, that the doc gives you so much at one time "every now and then" instead of taking a small (= recommended) dose every day.) Yes, I can see that a conversation can feel scary! Writing has always been much easier for me, too. Yet, if talking (about personal topics and emotions) would be easy, then it probably wouldn't help at all. I mean - talking like in psychotherapy, for instance. There, the most intensive relief and / or help most often comes from the most difficult parts, when one feels unable to talk about the issue, but then succeeds. I think the big difference between our expectations (creating fear and the feeling that we're unable to do it) and the reality (= "Yes, I did it! And the therapist / person listening didn't make it worse for me, on the contrary!") is in itself healing. We mostly cannot be persuaded by (written) words that something we feel deep inside (like, for instance: "I'm horrible, unlovable etc.") is wrong, but the feeling can disappear / change due to experience - a situation when we "expose our vulnerability" in front of anther human being and we feel understood, accepted, and liked by him/her. So, you're not at all special by having fear of a personal conversation about you. (I think also many of the people who often call such lines and feel comfortable sharing can only do it after overcoming the initial fears before their first call (or several call at the beginning).) When does your summer work start? And will it be also English teaching? Hugs, L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) How have you been, M.? Does the summer job help you already? I wonder if this text might make you feel a bit better - yet, I mainly hope it won't make you feel more sad! : https://www.theschooloflife.com/thebookoflife/on-feeling-depressed/ Hugs, L. Edited August 12, 2018 by LaLa Victimorthecrime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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