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Is this forum a good outlet. what do you honestly feel. i feel that it is healthy but i have seen many people here misusing their right to free speech by indulging in masochism and other bad things. ii am not referring to klingpeach who is honsetly one of the most upstanding citizens of this community. i honsetly think that despite our difficult lives we must always try to keep our heads above the water and support each other through things.

i have myself not been most responsible. i have at times been insensitive and it's only when such behavior is directed against me do i truly realize how destructive it is.

on the flip side, there is a negative side to this forum. i do honestly think that the positive outweighs the negative but let us mention the negative too just for the sake of a fair assessment. most people's lives are not centered around their dick. when we come to this forum we consciously direct attention to this part of ourselves which to be honest may not be a good idea.(freud once said something to the effect that there is much in man that is new to him and these organs have not grown into him and still give him much trouble)

going back to the positive it is definitely cathartic and dammit everyone needs an outlet for the helplesness we feel. i think we as a group are victimized more than any other section of society and it has to stop.

i think i will start dealing with women really soon in my life because i have not been doing so and i have made a crucial and strategic mistake in my life by not facing the fear of rejection. i think women are far better in this than men and even if a woman rejects you in the worst manner possible it is not as bad as having some dude mocking you. this is an actual fact and i want to hear other people's views on this. i have never had negative reaction from women but have with other men. i have read about women's terrible reactions against men but i have myself never experienced anyting negative simply because i never put myself out there. the worst a woman has done to me is reject me in silence. that's not too bad. in one occasion i read about a woman who couldn't suppress a cackle when the guy stripped. and she prided herself on being an 'A grade bitch.' another woman says .. why are you so antsy is it because you have an oversized clit. these things are terrible but they are nothing compared to what guys do to each other. we wipe out the entire existence of another human being with a single comment or a look. that is the truly punishable part. i want to hear other peoples view on this. back when i was very young i was very arrogant perhaps as a mechanism of compensation. i was once insulted by another male i never forgot that. i spent days measuring myself and looking at myself in the mirror. i saw charts in which pleasure was ranked along side girth and length and i just felt worse and worse. it was not before i went to grad school that i learned the true meaning of life. and that comes down to freud's prescription .. 'work and love. work and love. that's all there is'. now i live by it. i know i will never recover from the realization that i am small even if only in girth but that's what matters or so we are led to believe.

anyway, everyone must face their worst fears at some point or the other and it's what keeps life from being insufferable.

i used to read a lot of freud in my youth because i generally like critical analysis. people know freud for his views on sexuality but he was a theoretician who transcended mere sex. his essay instincts and their vicissitudes is one of the most brilliant piece of writing i have ever come across and it lays the groundwork for his entire theory which lies on a rock solid foundation. he explains in it his core principle --the pleasure principle.i.e. the nature of human beings to seek pleasure and avoid pain. he then explains the reality principle. this comes into operation as a child grows and becomes and adult and realizes that the world cares nothing for his aspirations or desires. in order to reconcile himself to the reality principle he needs a sense of self and also a constructed social self. he must engage in self restriction and this according to him is the germ of neurosis and mental disorders.

there is another book worth mentioning in this context. there is a book called the origin of consciousness in the breakdown of the bicameral mind. it is about the author's theory that consciousness is an aberration and that in earlier times men were not self conscious in today's sense and were guided by the voices of gods(which came from the right hemisphere of the brain) and they obeyed those commands without excpetion or attention. these voices seemed to come from outside.. it is after cruelty both physical and mental came into existence in society that men became truly conscious and this was a fall from a state of grace. consciousness we may interpret is a sign of pain. the author begins the book not by outlining what consciouness is but wht it isn't. he argues that one doesn't need consciousness to construct sentences oor to play games or walk or do any of the things we enjoy most. consciousness is merely the product of the mind being directed towards itself and the cause is human cruelty.

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2 hours ago, the_anonymous_one said:

 i think women are far better in this than men and even if a woman rejects you in the worst manner possible it is not as bad as having some dude mocking you.

That's not how I feel at all. No guy has ever mocked me and if he did I would just beat the crap out of him. I really don't care what guys think of my dick as I never intend on having sex with a guy.

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so basically you've misunderstood the entire point of my post. please try and understad the point before replying. the point is not that. other men who mock you do so to reduce your status in the eyes of other women so that you become undesirable to them. it impacts your chances of having sex with these women. it's survival of the fittest. and beating the crap out of anyone does not raise your status at all. i've had a person who insulted me after i asked out another girl(who refused). the girl who refused was friends with another girl who was a friend of the person who insulted me.

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Great OP. I do however agree with John. That female insults Hurt more. I have experienced Them. But fewer times than with guys.

And beating the crap out of someone does raise your status in some communities. 

I also like Freud even though i am not so well versed as you. I have reffered many times in here to his penis Envy theory. Even though it has been contested i still think it stands the test og time.

The bigger the size Queen = the more severity of penis envy

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Only issue I have with this forum is the aggressive/passive aggressive/sarcastic replies I sometimes get otherwise the people seem good but a few times I've put a comment in a thread or started one only to get some smarmy sarcastic dude shoot me down. This type of thing doesn't really do wonders for the community atmosphere.

I really think this whole penis envy is out dated I mean I understand its a primal thing but truth of the matter is we generally don't get to see our friends dicks much (thankfully) to compete in that way and besides everyones full of s**t when it comes to their erect sizes. A guy could be small flaccid but be average/above average erect but numbskulls seem to think anyone with a flaccid smaller penis MUST have a smaller erect penis. It doesn't work like that for the most part I mean I am sure some do but the majoity who are "growers" are not still smaller than average erect but it doesn't matter anyway seeing as we've mostly moved on from this ape type behavior. Penis size? pfft. Hey its 2019!!! nows its about who's making the most money, driving the nicest car, has the best job, screws the most women.

These things are something of the modern equivilent I feel.

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9 hours ago, the_anonymous_one said:

so basically you've misunderstood the entire point of my post. please try and understad the point before replying.

I guess you didn't understand my reply. Please try and understand the reply before you reply to my reply

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4 hours ago, FloridaDood898 said:

Only issue I have with this forum is the aggressive/passive aggressive/sarcastic replies I sometimes get otherwise the people seem good but a few times I've put a comment in a thread or started one only to get some smarmy sarcastic dude shoot me down. This type of thing doesn't really do wonders for the community atmosphere.

I really think this whole penis envy is out dated I mean I understand its a primal thing but truth of the matter is we generally don't get to see our friends dicks much (thankfully) to compete in that way and besides everyones full of s**t when it comes to their erect sizes. A guy could be small flaccid but be average/above average erect but numbskulls seem to think anyone with a flaccid smaller penis MUST have a smaller erect penis. It doesn't work like that for the most part I mean I am sure some do but the majoity who are "growers" are not still smaller than average erect but it doesn't matter anyway seeing as we've mostly moved on from this ape type behavior. Penis size? pfft. Hey its 2019!!! nows its about who's making the most money, driving the nicest car, has the best job, screws the most women.

These things are something of the modern equivilent I feel.

Are you kidding me??????? You have done nothing but try to shoot me down since I claimed you have been out of the dating scene for a while.

Also you should really read up on the theory behind penis envy before you start making self-righteous/obliviuous comments like the one above.

You make the common mistake of believing it has to do with male penis size comparisons  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_envy

While you're at it you could also benefit from looking up the word solipsism

 

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On 4/29/2019 at 12:05 PM, the_anonymous_one said:

there is another book worth mentioning in this context. there is a book called the origin of consciousness in the breakdown of the bicameral mind. it is about the author's theory that consciousness is an aberration and that in earlier times men were not self conscious in today's sense and were guided by the voices of gods(which came from the right hemisphere of the brain) and they obeyed those commands without excpetion or attention. these voices seemed to come from outside.. it is after cruelty both physical and mental came into existence in society that men became truly conscious and this was a fall from a state of grace. consciousness we may interpret is a sign of pain. the author begins the book not by outlining what consciouness is but wht it isn't. he argues that one doesn't need consciousness to construct sentences oor to play games or walk or do any of the things we enjoy most. consciousness is merely the product of the mind being directed towards itself and the cause is human cruelty.

I read that book and found it very interesting.  It was a long time ago, but my interpretation was different than yours.

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On 4/29/2019 at 12:05 PM, the_anonymous_one said:

i used to read a lot of freud in my youth because i generally like critical analysis. people know freud for his views on sexuality but he was a theoretician who transcended mere sex. his essay instincts and their vicissitudes is one of the most brilliant piece of writing i have ever come across and it lays the groundwork for his entire theory which lies on a rock solid foundation. he explains in it his core principle --the pleasure principle.i.e. the nature of human beings to seek pleasure and avoid pain. he then explains the reality principle. this comes into operation as a child grows and becomes and adult and realizes that the world cares nothing for his aspirations or desires. in order to reconcile himself to the reality principle he needs a sense of self and also a constructed social self. he must engage in self restriction and this according to him is the germ of neurosis and mental disorders.

Have you noted that psychological think like Freud, Jung, Adler et al has gone out of style?  Now it's all about inherent tendency and identity.

I have read a lot of psychology and try to diagnose my own neuroses without much success overall though some things are clear.

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well yeah .. clinical psychology has become psychiatry whereas the more academic side of it has been absorbed into cognitive science. it is as a matter of fact out of date. don't try to self diagnose it's an exercise in futility. you will ALWAYS come up with explanations that put you in a good light and you will be literally blind to your faults.

i spent years thinking that my neurosis was due to a very high intelligence whereas the truth is that it was because of an inadequate sexual organ.

you do seem to be an interesting person so i doubt there is very much wrong with you at the core. likely, you have developed any neurosis you might have just as a result of procrastination.

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10 hours ago, the_anonymous_one said:

well yeah .. clinical psychology has become psychiatry whereas the more academic side of it has been absorbed into cognitive science. it is as a matter of fact out of date. don't try to self diagnose it's an exercise in futility. you will ALWAYS come up with explanations that put you in a good light and you will be literally blind to your faults.

i spent years thinking that my neurosis was due to a very high intelligence whereas the truth is that it was because of an inadequate sexual organ.

you do seem to be an interesting person so i doubt there is very much wrong with you at the core. likely, you have developed any neurosis you might have just as a result of procrastination.

Sorry to butt in here, but do you mean (Vienna Circle) psychological theory is out of date? 

Seems to me it should be up-dated for a less culturally bound, more generally applicable approach, but the baby seems to have been thrown out with the bathwater.

My original self-diagnosis, far from putting myself in a good light, cast myself in a very negative light:  moral flaws in exercising will.  Now I see I was hormonally and genitally inadequate quite beyond the power of any "moral will" to correct.   Hello Dr. Adler!

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11 hours ago, the_anonymous_one said:

you do seem to be an interesting person so i doubt there is very much wrong with you at the core. likely, you have developed any neurosis you might have just as a result of procrastination.

Divorced has left the site because of personal issues she is handling.  She said she will not be returning.

She has mentioned to some of us and in her posts too that she suffered rather severe abuse in high school and believes herself to be suffering psychologially from that.

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7 hours ago, smallguy said:

Divorced has left the site because of personal issues she is handling.  She said she will not be returning.

She has mentioned to some of us and in her posts too that she suffered rather severe abuse in high school and believes herself to be suffering psychologially from that.

That is too bad.

I for one liked her for her honesty and female perspective on things.

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