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13 hours ago, lbaker said:

 

Some have jumped to the conclusion that because flaccid penises are often small or average on Greek and Roman statues, their cultures did not venerate the large penis.

Not exactly.  They did did associate the giant penis with the primitive barbarian tribes they often warred against.  They associated the large penis with intemperance and irrationality, ie. rampaging primitives often worship phallic totems, etc.  Plus, they perceived African and Middle East civilization perhaps as being better endowed

Perhaps that’s why Helen of Troy set sail! 

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INCELs as hypermasculine makes no sense to me.   In my experience, they lack masculinity, though I know nothing of their penis status.

From my investigation so far that is simply part of INCEL delusions and part and parcel of their lack of self-awareness.  Eliot Rodgers who gunned down quite a number of the young women and men by whom he felt mogged.  Though it is disputed whether he had Aspergers or not, he had extreme arrogance and lack of self-awareness, as proven in his manifesto, blaming others for not recognizing his sterling qualities in INCEL fashion.  There was no hint about his penis in his autobio manifesto which I read. 

I was always stunned to find how often scrawny guys have a large penis and are quite attracted by and active with women.

Guys with high natural testosterone don't worry about testosterone because they have plenty.

I think political obsessions of all kinds can be a compensation for a felt lack of genital power and satisfaction.

 

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@lbaker

I’ve derailed this thread and the other one long enough with bullshit that doesn’t matter. The point I’ve been trying to make for years is the reality of the phallocracy, socio-sexual hierarchy whatever tf one wants to call it, only to realize it’s pointless to try and make the point. Like everything else people ignore or dismiss what they don’t want to hear and take potshots at the rest. 

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1 hour ago, Klingsor said:

@lbaker

I’ve derailed this thread and the other one long enough with bullshit that doesn’t matter. The point I’ve been trying to make for years is the reality of the phallocracy, socio-sexual hierarchy whatever tf one wants to call it, only to realize it’s pointless to try and make the point. Like any other place where humans interact, people ignore or dismiss what they don’t want to hear and take potshots at the rest of it and blame you for doing 19999 affirmations in the morning instead of 20000. If you took every every one of these worn out counter arguments and applied it to anything except SPS you’d be swarmed with accusations of racism, sexism, feminism, leftism, nazism, etc etc etc. ITS ALL IN YOUR HEAD PENCIL DICK SO CHANGE YOUR THOUGHTS DO THOSE AFFIRMATIONS AND STOP WHINING. DONT WORRY ABOUT “GETTING AHEAD” WE LIVE IN A MERITOCRACY SO FUCK THE BOSS. NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP BLOCKING MY POSITIVITY.

Typical INCELs make little sense to me as they seem to deny the phallocracy and blame women instead.  I mean INCELs as a  stereotypical group, not particular people who are being denied sex though trying.

I'm in near 100% agreement with your paragraph above!  That socio-sexual hierarchy video by Dox was very right on even though he doesn't even mention penis size.  His cartoon tells the story though. 

 

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On 11/24/2019 at 8:49 PM, lbaker said:

Google phallic religion, phallicism, phallus worship, etc.  You will be stunned.  \

Some have jumped to the conclusion that because flaccid penises are often small or average on Greek and Roman statues, their cultures did not venerate the large penis.

Not exactly.  They did did associate the giant penis with the primitive barbarian tribes they often warred against.  They associated the large penis with intemperance and irrationality, ie. rampaging primitives often worship phallic totems, etc.  Plus, they perceived African and Middle East civilization perhaps as being better endowed.  So, did they really not value the large penis?   Hmm!  Sounds to me much like the attitude of the South toward Black slaves.  Ever read the novel, Mandingo?

My rude awakening towards the world of SPS came at the expense of reading an article that went along the lines of "why is that classical statues have such tiny penises?" around 9 years ago......I'm just slightly "bigger" than what you can see in those statues, adding insult to injury my balls AND hands are also small.

Before that, I perceived myself as average in comparison to porn guys in the same way that my height (6.1) is "average" in comparison 6.6 ft or bigger NBA players....My erect length  in a very good day is 5.7-5.9 inches bone pressed and rather depressing "girth" of 4.33 at its best..

I've even been told here that I'm perfectly average, yet every time a celebrity of my size is exposed the laughs come just right after.....After all these years going through this I came to the conclusion that there's no average, penises are either big or small.

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6 hours ago, Helpless_loner said:

My rude awakening towards the world of SPS came at the expense of reading an article that went along the lines of "why is that classical statues have such tiny penises?" around 9 years ago......I'm just slightly "bigger" than what you can see in those statues, adding insult to injury my balls AND hands are also small.

Before that, I perceived myself as average in comparison to porn guys in the same way that my height (6.1) is "average" in comparison 6.6 ft or bigger NBA players....My erect length  in a very good day is 5.7-5.9 inches bone pressed and rather depressing "girth" of 4.33 at its best..

I've even been told here that I'm perfectly average, yet every time a celebrity of my size is exposed the laughs come just right after.....After all these years going through this I came to the conclusion that there's no average, penises are either big or small.

You are way above average in length, but on the thin side which some women even prefer.  You can "reach" and do the rest by moving.

People enjoy putting others down, so you can't go by comments about celebrities.  Many think, "How dare so and so be a celebrity and not be extraordinarily well hung?"  Flaccid dimensions don't tell much about erect size anyway.  Maybe Greeks were "growers" by genetics to a greater extent than other ethnicities.  If you are larger than most statures flaccid you have nothing to worry about.

Try being a retractor like me whose penis often retracts totally into my body giving the impression I must have a micro erections (below 2.75 or some such).

 

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