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Exactly! Such a good point! Unfortunately... :( 

Not to mention some of them then abuse kids...

It reminds me of a joke (a cartoon, so this is just a description) where a priest says "we need the kids!" (in the sense that the peadophiles among them need poor children in bad life conditions to easily prey on them and abuse them)...

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On 10/9/2020 at 8:12 AM, Klingsor said:

Why do the people who become raving hysterics over abortion - the worshippers of “life” - always turn out to be the people who mercilessly make fun of the unfortunate, the stupid, and the weak and frequently make some sort of off-handed argument that the world would be much better if certain groups and individuals were killed/eradicated? Like many things I ask, this is partly rhetorical. And rhetorical means I already know the answer. I post this to express the hypocrisy and also highlight the dissimulation (hint: pro-life so long as you are genetically superior!)

No.  I don't see this at all.  Seems to me you are simply pushing stereotypes of conservatives you think are for social Darwinism.  People who are for social Darwinism push abortion and even suggest it be mandatory.

Serious Catholics, for instance, don't match any of what you are saying.

BTW:  I don't think abortion is admirable and think it should be avoided, but don't think it should be regulated by law.

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On 10/12/2020 at 6:13 PM, Klingsor said:

It goes further than what I’ve mentioned in the first post, and there is a reason that religion is increasingly becoming identified with “pro-life” and anti-LGBT to the exclusion of anything else. This woman was in the news a while back when the hydroxychloroquine controversy was going strong:


She was mocked on the internet for being the “demon semen” doctor because of her extreme theories. The public mostly laughed and thought she was just a loon. 

However, consider the widely dispersed “no  fap” and “coomer” memes on the internet. An analysis of meme culture and generation z is much more profitable than political analysis. What I am driving at here is something that could get me labeled as a crazy as well, so I have to be circumspect. But there is more significance to these things than one who only sees it from a comical perspective would expect. 

I would also remind people of the following fact because they seem to be programmed to think in terms of this binary exclusively: both the Nazi government and Soviet Union awarded mothers who had several healthy children. The opposition is toward transgenderism and effeminacy especially; again, it is the polarization - maximization of gender polarity - that is being pursued because there is something very real related to the consequent “release” of tension when it occurs.

No.  She simply comes from a country where hydroxychloroquine doen't even need a prescription because of malaria.  She knows how safe is is and how useful vs. not only malaaria but all manner of infections.  Real cheap so Big Pharma is against it.  Her religious peculiarities are besides the point.

Nazis and Soviets needed more people.  Mankind has archetypes and instincts for "heroes" and "warrors".  Effeminacy in males was not helpful for that very necessary role and thus discouraged.  War ubiquitous in human society:  from tribe to nation.

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14 hours ago, uptight outasight said:

No.  I don't see this at all.

I don’t see a lot of things. But plenty of people assure me they’re there. I don’t see you. Are you there? Or here? Do you see that? Or is it only this that you don’t see? I thought I saw it two days ago, but realized I have never seen those. Seeing is believing. Wish to see, believe you saw, and you will have seen, also sprach der blinde. 

14 hours ago, uptight outasight said:

Nazis and Soviets needed more people. 


14 hours ago, uptight outasight said:

Mankind has archetypes and instincts for "heroes" and "warrors".

No. I don’t see this at all.

14 hours ago, uptight outasight said:

War ubiquitous in human society:  from tribe to nation.

You Chicom Socialist Nazi. 

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Nazis and Soviets wanted to be ready for war with a lot of bodies.

Real reason in the hierarchy for Catholic Church anti-abortion policy might be the same, but that's not the "teaching" serious Catholics believe.  They believe in preserving life and caring for those alive too.  Strong supporters of charity and the welfare state.

Social Darwinist conservatives often vote for the same candidates because the Church believes in private property generally accepting only the "welfare" side of socialism, not ownership of the means of production.

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@Klingsor I have not experienced the pro life people to be that way. We are in different parts of the country, as I have said I’m in a largely Catholic area so maybe where you are you got some more radical folks. 
I imagine most of the rioters are pro-choice. They clearly by their own words have a genocidal agenda. So at the very least that knife cuts both ways.

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