Hate having a 4" erect penis

[toulouse_lautrec]

I'm back again... still feeling the pain. Some days I feel okay, then other days I start thinking about everything I don't have and never will have.

I just hate having a 4/4.25 inch erect penis. I'm at the bottom of the chart, just like a half an inch away from a micropenis. What I hate most though, is that sex isn't that good with a 4" penis. There's just not a lot of room to move back and forth and really enjoy it. At such a small size, I have to stay way too close. Condoms are also too big, mostly. While people with a 5 inch/5.5 inch penis want to be bigger, I just want to be average. And it's not going to happen. I feel like I've been deprived some of the basic pleasures of being a man, and I hate the world because of it.

5'5" with a 4.25 inch erect penis. I'm a loser on both counts.

[AmericanPsycho]

I all ready told you ways to get around your size but you choose to complain and feel sorry for yourself. I'm not exactly large at 6-1/2in erect but I don't complain about it.

One last time. Go to Extreme Restraints and choose a Penis Extender. They're fairly cheap and you just might find that you like it.

[AmericanPsycho]

Here we go AGAIN:rolleyes: All of the bitching in the world isn't going to make a difference. Already told you what to do but you won't even try to see if it works for you.

As for the moderators. A lot of members have been sympathetic by giving advice to help him with his problem. Probably will get a temp-ban for this but I'm sure other members are getting sick of him complaining. Remember the old saying. God helps those who help themselves.

[Luna-]

That's enough AP. Not only are you being rude but also grossly insensitive. If you don't have anything supportive to say, stay out of this thread. t_l has a right to post whatever is on his heart and this obviously is.

Think how your words will land before you shoot your mouth off at someone like you have just done. Can you do that?

You've been warned.

Edited January 27, 2012 by Luna-

[Notdoneyet]

I'm back again... still feeling the pain. Some days I feel okay, then other days I start thinking about everything I don't have and never will have.

I just hate having a 4/4.25 inch erect penis. I'm at the bottom of the chart, just like a half an inch away from a micropenis. What I hate most though, is that sex isn't that good with a 4" penis. There's just not a lot of room to move back and forth and really enjoy it. At such a small size, I have to stay way too close. Condoms are also too big, mostly. While people with a 5 inch/5.5 inch penis want to be bigger, I just want to be average. And it's not going to happen. I feel like I've been deprived some of the basic pleasures of being a man, and I hate the world because of it.

5'5" with a 4.25 inch erect penis. I'm a loser on both counts.

I have you beat by about 1/2 inch in length with pretty much the same girth.

What you need to do is start dating smaller ladies and keep looking until you find one that has enough problems of her own that she will be appreciative of whatever you bring to the party.

I used to say that being undersized won't keep you from getting laid, but might keep you from getting with the one you THINK you want to be with.

Now I figure I'm not looking for a longterm relationship so it isn't really important what their requirements may be.:cool:

[toulouse_lautrec]

Thanks for the nice response.

I should clarify. I'm 5'5" tall and have a 4" or 4.25' erect penis. Flaccid I'm anywhere from 1.5" to almost /2" + depending on the day. I think my girth is almost or exactly 5" but I only measured that once.

The thing is though... I don't want to date smaller women. All I think about these days is the fact that by being my height, the amount of women I can possibly date is much much less than someone who is average height, 5'10", or even 5'9". My height has really crippled my life. My penis, I didn't even notice it was "small" until a few years ago. Yes, I noticed that porn guys were much bigger, but I didn't think about it so much. Still, there wasn't something right about sex. Like I said before, without length it's hard to really penetrate and move without being so close. There's no room to spread out. Women haven't really complained, or been unsatisfied, but looking back now, I haven't dated normal women. My first girlfriend was very, very hot but she was only 4'11". Back then I didn't even think about height differences or what women preferred as far as height in a man. But now, yeah it makes sense. No dates in high school at all, and then the first girl I do date is 6 inches shorter than me, and I'm only 5'5".

After that, my only girlfriends were women my height or slightly taller, but overweight. Sometimes very much so. I'm not saying that's bad, or undesirable, I'm just stating facts. I never discriminated against women because of weight or height or anything. But looking back now, I realize why I've been relegated to dating certain kinds of women while I could never date others I wanted to date, normal, attractive, in shape women. Not supermodels. Hell, not even 8's. Just average, normal.

But yes, sex has never been that satisfying to me because of my penis size. It's enough to have sex. But condoms are too big I believe. Unless the woman is smaller than me, sex feels awkward. Not enough room to spread out. It doesn't feel that great. And I could never keep a girlfriend because of these issues.

Thank you so much, for finally not sugarcoating the truth. My penis size and height are both issues, and probably the only way to overcome it, is to find a woman with more problems and issues than me, or to get rich, so they'll want to be around me. As far as a satisfying sex life... never gonna happen. I mean damn, 4.25" long. That's over an inch less than the median. And only a half inch more than micropenis territory. One girl that I used to date, years back, I saw her after we dated and she dated another guy, a black guy. I asked her if his penis was bigger than mine (just for the hell of it, I knew the answer already, I was starting to understand that I have a small penis). She said "yes" and he just "rammed it home." I guess that story has no point.

[toulouse_lautrec]

American Psycho can't bother me. I'm much more bothered by my small penis and short height than anything he would post. I don't take it personally. He has a right to his opinion of me. But I haven't posted here in awhile, more than a month or two, so it's not like I'm posting this every day.

[AmericanPsycho]

Hope you realize that race has ZERO to do with size. It's a common myth. As I've mentioned before I was unfortunate enough to see guys of every color under the Sun naked while I was in Jail waiting to be sentenced. Size wasn't tied to just one race. Regardless of race they were all shapes and sizes. I only seen one guy that was truly hung to his knees. It might come as a surprise but he's caucasian.

[toulouse_lautrec]

Yeah, I know race has little to do with it. I've asked the most recent girl I've been with, and asked her about several white guys she was with, and all but like 1 or maybe 2 were bigger than me too, out of 10. It's humiliating. I don't think I'm going to talk to her anymore since she's been with bigger guys.

[Wastedlife]

I feel your pain, only difference is I’m a big guy so women expect big penis from me which I hate. I always get complements how tall I’m and bleh bleh…I know what there trying to say. Little do they know I have a little pathetic warm which makes me fell subhuman. 4 inch penis looks small on a 5’5 guy just imagine what it looks like on a almost 6’2 guy…I basically run on pills because of my depression, I feel like some mutant and will never feel like a man. So being tall is only really useful when your packing otherwise its just another expectation you can’t deliver on. jmho:(

[IrmaJean]

I wish the men in this area of the forum could appreciate and accept themselves. I understand that wishes don't make reality, though.

I wonder what all of you think makes a man, a man? Is it not in being true to himself?

I'm sorry so many are hurting here.

[AmericanPsycho]

I wonder what all of you think makes a man, a man?

What makes me a man:

1. Family Values

2. Loyalty

3. Caring

4. Loving

5. Protective

6. Reliable

7. Never Giving Up

8. Putting those I care about first

It's just too bad these qualities aren't the norm anymore.

[Wastedlife]

What makes me a man:

1. Family Values

2. Loyalty

3. Caring

4. Loving

5. Protective

6. Reliable

7. Never Giving Up

8. Putting those I care about first

It's just too bad these qualities aren't the norm anymore.

1. Family Values

2. Loyalty

3. Caring

4. Loving

5. Protective

6. Reliable

7. Never Giving Up

8. Putting those I care about first

9. A penis I can be proud of and not a vigina with enlarged clitoris. (sorry to put it so crudely but that’s how I feel.)

Just because man has a large or above average penis doesn’t mean he’s some shallow bastard…you can have both you know…And those who do have both have really biggest shot at happiness. Don’t get me wrong just because you have a big penis doesn’t mean your automatically going to be happy but I think it’s a necessity in the long run. jmho

[AmericanPsycho]

I'm just plain old everyday average but it doesn't make me or break me.

[IrmaJean]

WL, how is it that you feel your penis size has to do with your being a man? I ask this very gently and with respect to your feelings. What steps can you take to appreciate yourself as you are?

[Wastedlife]

WL, how is it that you feel your penis size has to do with your being a man? QUOTE]

Well I mean its hard to explain to a women how man feels about a penis…I don’t even know if it can be done.

Let me try it this way, take something that makes you feel feminine something you identify with as a women. I have no clue what that could be, it might be something different for all women…for example women who lose their breasts to cancer often feel like something a part that makes them a “women/feminine” is missing so they get implants or something else to make up for it in some way, so they can feel better about themselves and also how they are perceived.

Well I guess that’s how man feel with tiny penis, we feel like something that makes us a man is missing, and no matter what we do we can never be complete.

At least that how I feel about it, might be different for others.

[IrmaJean]

I understand what you're saying, WL. I experienced similar types of feelings when I suffered nerve damage after giving birth to my last child and could then no longer achieve orgasm. There was a time when I felt "less of a woman," but then I realized that this wasn't what being a woman was truly about. I have always felt my femininity (or what I like to call my pink) very strongly from within and none of this changed that. I realized that I was still the same person inside.

Well I guess that’s how man feel with tiny penis' date=' we feel like something that makes us a man is missing, and no matter what we do we can never be complete.[/quote']

I hear you. I'm sorry these feelings are so painful. I personally don't think being a man has to do with any body measurements or size. I think this has to do with the heart and the mind; in being true to oneself. Is it possible to not judge your body or at least allow for the possibility of accepting yourself? All of us are built differently. What do you like about yourself? Can you connect with the positive feelings you have about yourself?

Take care.

[toulouse_lautrec]

I feel your pain, only difference is I’m a big guy so women expect big penis from me which I hate. I always get complements how tall I’m and bleh bleh…I know what there trying to say. Little do they know I have a little pathetic warm which makes me fell subhuman. 4 inch penis looks small on a 5’5 guy just imagine what it looks like on a almost 6’2 guy…I basically run on pills because of my depression, I feel like some mutant and will never feel like a man. So being tall is only really useful when your packing otherwise its just another expectation you can’t deliver on. jmho:(

I'm sorry to hear that you're tall and have a small penis too. Sometimes I think about what I would choose if I could be four inches taller or add two more inches to my penis. I honestly don't know what I would choose. I'd rather be 5'9" with a 5.5 inch penis. Average has never sounded so good to me.

[toulouse_lautrec]

What makes me a man:

1. Family Values

2. Loyalty

3. Caring

4. Loving

5. Protective

6. Reliable

7. Never Giving Up

8. Putting those I care about first

It's just too bad these qualities aren't the norm anymore.

That entire list is imaginary, in other words, what you define as being a man. It has no relevance to a person with a 4 inch penis. I'm not saying I'm not a man. What I'm saying is that I'm below average in penis size and height, which hinders my ability to have a good life because of my greatly reduced options. Am I a man? Yes. Does that matter? No.

[toulouse_lautrec]

I'm just plain old everyday average but it doesn't make me or break me.

Well I'm below average in penis size and height and it has definitely broken me. First, by how others perceived me. Then, how I perceived myself. But this isn't a problem of perception, it's a problem of statistics. I'm below average in penis size and height. Those two things can't be denied. I only dream about being average. The pool of women I can date is very much reduced, and sexual enjoyment is very much impaired.

[malign]

But this isn't a problem of perception, it's a problem of statistics.

Are you sure it's not a problem of perception, of which statistics matter?

I'm shorter than average, more shy than average, less experienced than average (virgin at 40), smarter than average, have bluer eyes than average, balder than average, potentially more annoying than average ... You choose which statistic(s) define you; that's really what we're saying.

[toulouse_lautrec]

Are you sure it's not a problem of perception, of which statistics matter?

I'm shorter than average, more shy than average, less experienced than average (virgin at 40), smarter than average, have bluer eyes than average, balder than average, potentially more annoying than average ... You choose which statistic(s) define you; that's really what we're saying.

No, I'm saying that certain characteristics about you are related to the outcome. For example, you're shorter and more shy than average so it's more likely you'd be a virgin, because many women are not attracted to short men, much less shy short men. Certain hands that you're dealt in life have a bigger effect on your outcome than any hard work you could put into it.

[Thermonuclear Warrior]

Hey, so I'm in nearly the same boat as you, but with some difference. I'm 5'6'' or 5'6.5'/5'7'' tops. After repeated measruements, I still cannot properly figure out the true length of my Penis since it seems like my erections have varied. What is the proper way to measure it? IF i firmly press the ruler against the pubic bone (an instance of full penetration), I'm measuring iat over 5.5 Inches. However, if I just lightly skim the pubic area and measure to the tip of the glans, I'm at 4.9/5.0 inches maximum. Assuming that you're measuring from the base to the tip of the glans without firmly hitting the pubic bone, I'm only 1/2-.75 inches longer than you and roughly 1 inch taller than you. Your girth exceeds mine since you said you were 5 inches. Keep in mind that is more important than length.

I know that the penis isn't the same as a graduated cylinder, but lets use that as an example. The area for a cylinder is pi x (radius^2) x height. So you're radius is 1.5 inch and height is 4.25 inches. Say mine is 1.2 inches and 5.0 inches.

You: 4.25 x 1.5^2 = 9.5625pi

Me: 5.0 x 1.3^2 = 8.45 PI.

Your penis fills the vagina by an inch more than mine!!!!

I'd take your short but wider penis over my barely average all around penis. I'm 5.0 inches if I'm lucky (might be 4.8 or 4.9 because of the pubic fat pad. I understand your length limits your positions..but trust me, I doubt that the extra .5-.75 inches in length that I have in you would improve your sex life at all. Be happy you're 5.0 around...that's pretty damn good. At least condoms are unlikely to slip off in your case. If we stood next to each other, we'd be about the same..and I doubt a woman would notice my extra length. We both need to just dismiss all thoughts of having exciting sex lives. I feel that this wil be the only way to stop comparing ourselves to the average. Get some hobbies, focus on things that make you happy and stop dwelling on this subject. The less negative you are, the more likely you'll be able to get woman to.

I've been on a long hiatius from this board...a few months now. To be honest, I was on good terms with myself and gave up on all sexual fantasies that my brain soaked in over the years. However, I regressed to my formal self in the last week. and it's helping to read posts from people with this issue.

Edited February 3, 2012 by Thermonuclear Warrior

[toulouse_lautrec]

Hey, so I'm in nearly the same boat as you, but with some difference. I'm 5'6'' or 5'6.5'/5'7'' tops. After repeated measruements, I still cannot properly figure out the true length of my Penis since it seems like my erections have varied. What is the proper way to measure it? IF i firmly press the ruler against the pubic bone (an instance of full penetration), I'm measuring iat over 5.5 Inches. However, if I just lightly skim the pubic area and measure to the tip of the glans, I'm at 4.9/5.0 inches maximum. Assuming that you're measuring from the base to the tip of the glans without firmly hitting the pubic bone, I'm only 1/2-.75 inches longer than you and roughly 1 inch taller than you. Your girth exceeds mine since you said you were 5 inches. Keep in mind that is more important than length.

I know that the penis isn't the same as a graduated cylinder, but lets use that as an example. The area for a cylinder is pi x (radius^2) x height. So you're radius is 1.5 inch and height is 4.25 inches. Say mine is 1.2 inches and 5.0 inches.

You: 4.25 x 1.5^2 = 9.5625pi

Me: 5.0 x 1.3^2 = 8.45 PI.

Your penis fills the vagina by an inch more than mine!!!!

I'd take your short but wider penis over my barely average all around penis. I'm 5.0 inches if I'm lucky (might be 4.8 or 4.9 because of the pubic fat pad. I understand your length limits your positions..but trust me, I doubt that the extra .5-.75 inches in length that I have in you would improve your sex life at all. Be happy you're 5.0 around...that's pretty damn good. At least condoms are unlikely to slip off in your case.

I've been on a long hiatius from this board...a few months now. To be honest, I was on good terms with myself and gave up on all sexual fantasies that my brain soaked in over the years. However, I regressed to my formal self in the last week. and it's helping to read posts from people with this issue.

I would take your extra inch/inch and a half any day. I don't press firmly, I just press a bit and I'm just over 4". Maybe reaching 4.25". Height wise I'm 5'5 1/2" tall. An extra inch would be great, even at a reduced girth. As far as height, 5'8" would be acceptable but by no means good. At least I wouldn't look like a freak. That's just my opinion. 4.25" is treading way too close to micropenis and I always wish for more length so I don't have such restricted movement during sex.

Thanks for your response. I've been posting on here like crazy since I feel like killing myself, this stuff is all I ever think about. At night, I just lay there and think about how I'll never have what I want, I'll never be normal, how I've been jipped in life. It's an overwhelming feeling but I can't think of much else. I always come back to how I've been jipped off in size and height and how it has ruined my life.

[Thermonuclear Warrior]

Ok, well I have friends that are 5'8 or so and they're only about an inch taller than me. While standing next to them I never feel shorter and I feel about the same. So with that in mind, I highly doubt you'd feel much shorter than me. Your problem is that your dimensions have taken over your life. Do you have any hobbies? I'm basically in the same boat as you, except my penis is narrower but longer. Keep in mind most woman would prefer the thick vs. narrow tradeoff, so you have me beat in terms of volume expansion of the vagina. I have half an inch of thrusting room which I honestly could care less about seeing as my girth and width are both below average...at least your girth is above average. But i'd say in the 24 hours that I'm alive, i dwell on this subject for a small percent of the day. It's key to find other things to appreciate in life other than sex. Honestly, if I wasn't doing complicated math, playing guitar, driving and old car, I'd probably be in your position too because the only interest that isn't fulfilled in my life is sex.

Try not to dwell on this fact..take it from me because I ACTUALLY relate to you unlike other posters who are will within the average. We're roughly the same height and we roughly have similar penises yet I'm not suicidal by any means. Sure, I am depressed right now, but tomorrow I'm going to start fresh and focus on what I need to do for myself outside of my sexual frustrations... I suggest you do the same...figure out what else is important to you and do it, and do not hesitate to spend money on yourself.