I have suicidal thoughts because of a small penis

[Wastedlife]

All i have to do is see my shitty small penis every day when i wake up and my day is ruined, who cares about porn. In a weird way i'm happy for those guys with big penises in porn, at least they are having fun on this planet and not living a miserable fucking existence like me...

[Victimorthecrime]

I like the cartoon variety where a young feller gets lucky

[Jessie]

great- a vent against small dicks and a nice slice of casual racism too.

It gets better….

[Jessie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McnlBkvD53Y

I have noticed there is a real spate of videos of guys asking usa girls if size matters.

This one goes into more detail than most.

Of course, as always, the great majority insist size matters and they would immediately dismiss guys in the 3 inch range even if they were otherwise perfect.

There is a funny moment at the end when the interviewer accidentally asks a church goer outside her church- but his charm gets him off the hook.

[Resolute]

Of course, as always, the great majority insist size matters and they would immediately dismiss guys in the 3 inch range even if they were otherwise perfect.

funny,i would immediately dismiss gals who have size preferences,or rather talk openly about size,even if they were otherwise perfect (at least as a wife and mother of my children).

note that i didn't watch video.

[Jessie]

Well they were asked a direct question and were clearly uncomfortable about the topic matter but he kept pressing for an answer.

And I would venture to suggest that every women who ever lived has some size preference of some description. e.g. over 1 inch and under 20 inches etc

The point I perhaps didnt make is that these were thoughtful, decent girls and even they couldn't cope with small… so I can't really blame my exes for ditching me, nor future girls that would reject me.

[Guest Klingsor]

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[Resolute]

Well they were asked a direct question and were clearly uncomfortable about the topic matter but he kept pressing for an answer.

And I would venture to suggest that every women who ever lived has some size preference of some description. e.g. over 1 inch and under 20 inches etc

The point I perhaps didnt make is that these were thoughtful, decent girls and even they couldn't cope with small… so I can't really blame my exes for ditching me, nor future girls that would reject me.

to "immediately" dismiss a guy under 1 inch length is fine,but to "immediately" dismiss a guy who's 3 inches or less isn't.i mean they certainly are entitled to do so,but it's undignified.there's also the issue of accurate size perception by most women,or even men for that matter.add to that,that girth is more important to most women than length.not to mention the fact that many women prefer clitoral stimulation to penetration.

also,you tend to consider almost all these women thoughtful,decent,considerate etc.;even a porn star you once mentioned.

Excellent post and video, Jessie. Any girl (even a nice, 'respectable' girl) who says she doesn't have a reasonable size preference is lying or is deranged in some way, or even just has a low to nonexistent sex-drive.

or just doesn't know what she prefers because she's inexperienced,or even a virgin;unless you consider virgins unrespectable.

or just doesn't care much for penetration,and mostly just enjoys clitoral sex not vaginal.

[Jessie]

if a girl rejects 1 inch or 3 inch one is no better than the other… we are just quibbling over numbers.

I can tell you most British women almost universally consider under 6 inches unacceptable - none of this 5 inch nonsense…

And you are making a common error by conflating orgasm completion and overall sexual satisfaction.

Even women who can only orgasm clitorally consider size important because they enjoy the fullness of penetration (which lasts much longer than an orgasm) and the sexual attractiveness associated with a normal to large size.

ps I am avery careful about what I post and who I consider decent and fair (and yes one or two porn stars have been very kind and thoughtful on this subject, much more so than women I have known in real life).

I never post enlargement sourced videos or humiliation videos- as far as I am aware its always neutral interviews, articles and POV clips.

[Resolute]

hi jessie,i want to clarify that in no way did i intend to upset you,if i did,i apologise.

I can tell you most British women almost universally consider under 6 inches unacceptable - none of this 5 inch nonsense…

if so,then most british women should be avoided altogether by anyone under 6 inches.

[Jessie]

Hi there,

No worries- you didnt upset me at all- just debating the topic…

and yes, I am not in the right country for me it seems…. I have considered going abroad … though my only family is here in the uk (not that I see them much these days)

[Resolute]

Hi there,

No worries- you didnt upset me at all- just debating the topic…

and yes, I am not in the right country for me it seems…. I have considered going abroad … though my only family is here in the uk (not that I see them much these days)

what about a mail-order bride,lol?

[Resolute]

or is it now email-order bride?

[Jessie]

alas the uk have tightened up green card marriages and visas and immigration etc- don't think for a moment I haven't thought about it!!

[Resolute]

I can tell you most British women almost universally consider under 6 inches unacceptable - none of this 5 inch nonsense…

also jessie,realistically,how many british men do you think are 6 inches or above? (that's actual 6 inches)

[Jessie]

The more more recent studies are flawed.

They are either stretched flaccid lengths or extrapolations from flaccid length or measured erect by nurse.

All of these give lower numbers. (especially the nurse ones)

A true measurement should be along the top, 'bone pressed' on a 'fully' hard maximum size.

This after all is what can go inside a women with maximum hip to hip penetration.

Kinsey put it at 6.4 for a Caucasian male. And 5 or so in girth. As averages.

But anyway, lets a call it 5.8 or 5.9 if you want.

Fact is the vast majority are over 5 inches. Its a bell curve.

If you are in the bottom 16% its very bad luck.

If you are in the bottom 5% then you are effectively sexually worthless. (that would be me btw)

If you are in the bottom 0.6% you have micro penis and have all the issues this brings with it from rage, suicidal tendencies, loneliness, humiliation, self loathing etc.

[Unimpressive]

Hello Jessie,

I find it kind of funny that you put most stock in the study that got it's results by having men mail in their self-reported measurements. Measurements obtained by just marking a length on a piece of paper. I've been following the discussions here for about a year now and I recall someone else already pointing out why this particular study was flawed. And from what I understand, Kinsey himself admitted to this as well. The more recent studies, in which dudes couldn't just make up a number, put the average length, as you noted, consistently somewhere between 5 and 6 inches (most averages seemed to be between 5.5 - 5.9 inches). At least the ones that I've seen the results of.

And I believe some researches (in Brazil?) found there was actually a very strong correlation between stretched and errect length.

[gone]

Kinsey put it at 6.4 for a Caucasian male. And 5 or so in girth. As averages.

But anyway, lets a call it 5.8 or 5.9 if you want.

Jessie, I'd never argue with you or try to change your mind....BUT

I live in southern Indiana. I know people who went to IU (the home of the Kinsey Institute.), and I know some kids who are actively going there now. (the students nick name for the institute is "The jack Shack").

Kinsey was a f**king nut. His research and methodology was so flawed. When you read about how he recruited research subjects and gathered statistical data you wonder how he was taken seriously at all.

In my humble opinion he was a sexual nut case.

Have any opinion you want on size, women and sex but please, base it on any other studies than his.

Some of their more recent work has science and serious medical research behind it. That having been said, they were some of the first that started the 'Size doesn't matter' mantra.

(And I'm beginning to realize that here in my backwards, rural area it's more confidence than size, and when the ladies get to husband hunting age ((mid twenties)) even that brash, swaggering confidence gives way to other more grounded qualities. I really wish this was so where you live too.)

[Victimorthecrime]

A man can isolate, self loath, etc over any number of concerns, small penis being just one of them. Others might include being low income, poor health, unattractive appearance, etc.

considering the kind of negative messaging in the media aimed specifically at men (deadbeats, potential criminals, losers, geeks, morons, sexist) it is should surprise no one that a man finds himself in a downward spiral.

Now that said, and perhaps ironically, part of being a man is just giving a big FU to the haters & carrying on the best you can w your life each moment of the day.

A panacea? No way. But it is the best I have been able to come up with.

Now about the video. This lout is confronting college women at Rutgers University asking them 'does size matter?'. Well of course it matters. Anything that exists matters. And even in the face of him leading the witness they still said they would rule out the far low end of the ruler. Is that hurtful - yes. Unfair? Yes. But sadly in life there is no more cruel & unfair event than the mating game & men are guilty of exercising extreme prejudice too in terms of their preferences.

That said I really doubt that to an older, less attractive, less privileged group of women that size would matter nearly as frequently as it does in this video's population so it does not have to exclude anyone from all contact w women for Gods sakes.

[Guest Klingsor]

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[gone]

I'd read a book written about Kinsey. He had a habit of approaching ordinary workers at the institute and asking them to participate in his studies. One janitor told the story of Kinsey walking up to him, asking him to 'come up to the top floor, take his clothes off and lie down on a cot and and masturbate while Kinsey and a few of his researchers filmed and observed him. When the janitor asked why Kinsey smiled and said "We want to see if you curl your toes or arch your back when you orgasm". The janitor declined. Kinsey would ask random students to masturbate themselves, masturbate another student or even have sex with each other while being observed. His wife participated in experiments with having sex with multiple partners. I guess she was a major factor in his Book about sexual responses in the human female. I don't know if there was a major player in the responses in the human male book.

When he was compiling his 'data' on childrens sexuality he accepted several donations from pedophiles that had kept diaries of kids responses and recovery times. Kinsey just took these as gospel and published the data.

He measured some of his male subjects for his penis size statistics, but he let most simply measure themselves. You know how accurate that is.

Klingsor, I think a lot of scientific studies and research methodology had been established by his time. If he had used a little more 'pure' research and a little less 'SWAG' I'd think a lot more of his finding.

And like I said if you fast forward 40 or 50 years The Kinsey Institute is using much better, or more pure if you will experiments.

I'd respectfully point out your examples kinda buttress my argument. These three guys were dead wrong on their theories and research. The difference is they really didn't know better. They were using the most modern, advanced research methods of their time. I don't think that's true of Kinsey.

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I don't know what part of the country you live in Klingsor, but I'm really sorry the ladies there are as you say. They just aren't that way here. Sure we have the occasional "Size Queen", but they're few and far between.

My wife has a group of friends that get together and talk, and they'll talk about anything. I know most of them and their husbands. We guys work out at the same gym and swim at the same pool. The penis sizes are as varied as the guys are. A couple are well endowed, some average and many of us small. My wife has told me the ladies really don't talk about size in a derogatory manner. There's no one saying "oh, a 3"er would be a deal breaker" or "his 4"er just isn't doing it" If they're talking about sex at all, it's problems or hang-ups the couple's having.

We all know each other. All us guys see each other nude in the locker rooms and showers. I'm going to guess my wife knew about me being small before our first date. She could have not went on that first one if this fact upset her.

It's a shame this crass obsession is affecting so many.

[Jessie]

Kinsey actually used a very neat solution to size data.

He got his subjects (several thousand) to do a postal measurement…. but it was anonymous and was a mark on a strip of card.

No numbers to exaggerate and strict instructions on how to measure.

To date its the biggest ever data collection on size and I think has the best methodology.

The data also showed a classic bell curve and pretty well closely matches subsequent results.

ps chemically created erections are not 'full mast' (see a you tube clip on a peyronies procedure)

ps flaccid stretching is unreliable (try it with yours)

ps flaccid extrapolation is unreliable (try it with yours using the urologist formulae- look it up!)

ps nurse measurement unreliable (try getting FULLY hard in front of a nurse with a ruler in her hand- go on! this has a 60% failure rate)

Kinseys solution gets around this….

pps and it matches female reportage!!! Women regard 5 inches as small… which they wouldnt if 5 was average or even 5.5!

Even Dobson calls 5.5 small!!!

[Jessie]

During an USA medical show a presenter told the audience how long the average male was in relation to a 5 dollar bill.

I think I posted the clip.

If you watch it you will note the female members of the audience gasping in disbelief at how small they think that is.

ps I was quoting white male averages- which is the best documented group for size.

Perhaps the 5-6 quote is supposed to take account of smaller endowed groups? maybe?

[Guest Klingsor]

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[gone]

I am happy for you that you seemed to have found this isolated hamlet of sexual tolerance, and that you handle 'our little problem' as well as you do. I wish I could.

Oh, no I've been in sheer hell for the past 10 years. I'm finding out a lot of my perceived problems were of a completely different nature. I'm in therapy now, but it's a long hard road up and out.

I know where you guys are coming from. I understand the rage and depression.

I wouldn't have stuck my nose in at all. I just don't like Kinsey.....(sorry Jessie )