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7 hours ago, divorced said:

but 50% of guys are smaller than average which is somewhere around 5.2-5.5".

really????? I basically read somewhere in numerous places that 95% of men are between 5 and 6 and three quarter inches ERECT. It'd make them still technically average. Call it small if you want but its still average.

5 hours ago, TheDane said:


That big guy harem you are speaking about is today's society. where 20% of the(big penis) male population is having sex with 80% of the sexually active female population.
 

LOLOL!!! riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Funny seeing how I've known many male friends throughout my life from teen years to fully grown men who have been outright flirts and players and dated many numerous women. I guess they must ALL have big dicks right? WRONG. You get to learn through various womens gossip (not willingly I might add but these rumors slip out when you happen to be in the company of female friends on drunken nights out) most clarify their boyfriend as "average" in that department although you'd think with the way some of the guys acted that they'd be hung like Dirk Diggler. They aren't. You SERIOUSLY telling me every couple you see out there now dating or with each other, the vast majority of the men with these women must all be big down there?????? your statement is just extremely silly i'm sorry. There is no actual factual evidence either of this. As me and 'divorced' said there simply isn't enough big dicks to go around. Also wouldn't the amount of boys  with larger penises increase over time if this was correct? if you think about it it should do. If for the most part men with larger penisis screwed women more than average/smaller guys then generally most pregnancies should be from these men which would include their larger than average penis size genes to pass onto the baby if it turns out to be a boy. I don't see this changing in recent years at all in studies.

Where you say in another post;  "I realise I sound very bitter, but I have been let down so many times." I am extremely inclined to agree. You DO sound bitter but I have been hurt by women before as have many I am sure but NONE of it was to do with my penis size at all in fact NO breakups I have ever heard of in my ENTIRE LIFE on this earth I have known of in my circle of friends/aquaintences have been caused by a mans size issue but oh yeh I forgot sorry they all have big dicks right where it would not be an issue? lololol smh. Get a grip.

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42 minutes ago, FloridaDood898 said:

really????? I basically read somewhere in numerous places that 95% of men are between 5 and 6 and three quarter inches ERECT. It'd make them still technically average. Call it small if you want but its still average.

Simple mathematical definition.  We don't know exact average, but it is ONE number.  Average range is sloppy thinking..

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44 minutes ago, FloridaDood898 said:

As me and 'divorced' said there simply isn't enough big dicks to go around. Also wouldn't the amount of boys  with larger penises increase over time if this was correct? if you think about it it should do. If for the most part men with larger penisis screwed women more than average/smaller guys then generally most pregnancies should be from these men which would include their larger than average penis size genes to pass onto the baby if it turns out to be a boy. I don't see this changing in recent years at all in studies.

There may be truth to what the Dane is saying for women active on one night stand sex apps like tinder.   It is said 20% of the men on tinder have sex with nearly all the women on tinder.  Also men with small penises don't go on tinder which skews the data.    Thus, the Dane doesn't believe scientific studies based on random samples of men, not the sexually active who tend to be much larger.

However, tinder has nothing to do with men and women pairing up for marriage or long term relationships.  For marriage, women have to settle not just have sex with the most attractive (penis or otherwise) man they see.

Admittedly, I am basing this on reading.  I have no first hand experience.  In my day it was meeting people in social circles, common interest groups, work, family contacts, etc.  

If there are penis size changes toward larger due to female selection it would be because of selections for raising a family not one night stands or sexual adventure.

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4 hours ago, FloridaDood898 said:

 As me and 'divorced' said there simply isn't enough big dicks to go around. Also wouldn't the amount of boys  with larger penises increase over time if this was correct? if you think about it it should do. If for the most part men with larger penisis screwed women more than average/smaller guys then generally most pregnancies should be from these men which would include their larger than average penis size genes to pass onto the baby if it turns out to be a boy. I don't see this changing in recent years at all in studies.

“There simply aren’t enough to go around.”

Let’s take the population of the United States as a basis using the 2018 national census (CIA Factbook). In November of 2018 the population of males aged 15-54 was 86,742,625 while females aged 15-54 numbered 85,472,325. Ratio of males to females is almost 1:1. If we take the Ansell condom company average penis size numbers as a reference since these numbers were obtained from a random sampling of nightclub attendees in Cancun Mexico (assume sexually active men), this means 5% of men will have an erect penis greater than 7.52” (avg=5.877, SD=0.852). 

Applying this to the total pop of men in the us aged 15-54, it means  4,337,131 men will have a penis larger than 7.52”. If we further take the 2017 pop estimates of the 10 largest cities in the us and calculate the city pop as a percentage of the total pop, we can then take that percentage and calculate a breakdown of men with penises > 7.52” and the total female pop of each city, assuming they are spread proportionally to the total city percentage. This breaks down to approximately 1 male to 20 females. Taking Dallas for instance, it means there are 17,682 males with penises > 7.52” available to service 348,453 women. That is not unreasonable and I’ve personalky known men who have had hundreds of casual sexual partners. 

The “evolutionary” argument is often cited as proof this isn’t happening because it commits a massive error: animals do not possess rationality or contraceptives. Humans do. That’s the entire point of sexual education and pro-choice. The patterns of thought that are activated when evaluating a mate for child rearing are entirely different from those evaluating a casual hookup partner.

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To conclude the example above, (and the reason I chose to spread the population across 10 largest cities, not the entire geographical extent of the country) considering any one of those 348,453 women to be on an app like tinder browsing within the Dallas radius, and recalling that the overall population of females to males in the USA is roughly 1:1, we can assume that the woman would only have to “swipe left” 20 times for her cherries to line up and hit the jackpot. Conversely, that one guy has access to (theoretically) over a quarter million potential women for casual sex. It stretches credulity to say it’s impossible in 2019 for one well hung confident young guy to service hundreds of women. Smartphones and hookup apps have transformed sex relations fundamentally.

Parenthetically, most women and even some men have no trouble admitting this Pareto principle when the shoe is on the other foot, in which case it’s characterized as medieval, oppressive, cruel. I don’t really give a shit in any case since men like me lose out no matter what...whether the “alpha” is conceived as a savage chest-beating gorilla patriarch with his harem of females or a horse-hung pot-smoking “Netflix and chill” free-love gigolo. In both cases, women are the prize, for which they have to do absolutely nothing except exist.

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I think Klingpeach is confusing the issue!  Of course there are enough large penis guys around for women wanting sexual adventures.  That is what I meant with my tinder and 1 night stand analysis.

There are not enough large penis guys for a large per cent of women to have as marriage or long term partners for the purpose of raising a family.  Only procreative sex which results in children would change the average penis size of the population over time.  Even so, there would be a slow evolution towards larger penises due to female preference.

 

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Duh!  Small dick men are unlikely to be sex athletes.  This is partially due to the preferences of women and partially due to sps which overemphasizes the importance of penis size in the MINDS of men.

If I may say so, I was something of a sex athlete myself when young, seeking adventure instead of long term partners.  Most guys in those pick-up bar venues of yesteryear were larger than average though >7.5 I think was pretty exceptional even there.  There were some very aggressive (and fun) guys with average or less too.  There were more factors in adventurous sex than size on my mind.

Why is it so impossible for guys to admit they might not be cut out to be a sex athlete, regardless whether the reason be penis size or something else?

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17 minutes ago, divorced said:

Why is it so impossible for guys to admit they might not be cut out to be a sex athlete, regardless whether the reason be penis size or something else?

I notice this with a lot of guys with small penises (or ones they think are small) they seem to just be totally unreasonably bias for the notion "alpha males" with bigger dicks get all the pussy and the beta guys (I assume they mean themselves) sit by and do nothing but watch like wimps. Sure many do because they are alpha but much of that has nothing to do with size for the most part.

@Klingpleach Yes I do accept that its been scientifically verified that women on average prefer a larger penis for one night stands but the majority of women with men outside of this who are in sensible relationships/marriages are for the most part with average sized men. Its just how it is.

The average penis size would have increased long ago if these supposedly so many men with big dicks made male babies but its not the case and small guys seem to have trouble understanding this proven biology for some reason. It's all the proof you need really.

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56 minutes ago, divorced said:

Why is it so impossible for guys to admit they might not be cut out to be a sex athlete, regardless whether the reason be penis size or something else?

In my humble opinion, this is the reason, the basis, the root of all SPS:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/penis-size-does-matter-in-the-locker-room-at-least-9202855.html

I have been posting articles like that for 5 years and the guys here do one of two things - ignore it or fly into a rage. 

The whole phenomena begins and ends with well hung males, who, as the article points out, are “outed” to women by their friends. The crime that I’m indicted for is the fact that I’m envious. As a small dick man you better accept your fucking place in the “cocktocracy” and give your superiors proper respect. Women are intently observant of the social hierarchy among a group of males and can instantly spot who the leader is, strictly by the behavior of the other males in the group. By laughing and constantly bringing up a “mate’s” big dick, it’s signaling a social cue to any women who may be watching that the well hung guy is desirable in some way, and inevitably they associate a big dick with alpha status. After a long enough time, a big dick is genuinely required to grab attention.

There also seems to be an extremely fine line between what straight males would consider as “gay” and what they would consider as jovial locker room banter, and sexual prowess or sexual activity seems to be a strong determinant of that. As for me, I could never joke or be around another hung guy. It makes me just want to smash their face in.

 To answer your question divorced, it’s competition. It’s an attack on the core of a man’s identity and self worth. It’s the equivalent of accusing a woman of being a shitty mother who’s only fit to produce average or below average/sickly children. 

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59 minutes ago, FloridaDood898 said:

@Klingpleach Yes I do accept that its been scientifically verified that women on average prefer a larger penis for one night stands but the majority of women with men outside of this who are in sensible relationships/marriages are for the most part with average sized men. Its just how it is.

The average penis size would have increased long ago if these supposedly so many men with big dicks made male babies but its not the case. That's all the proof you need really.

What is your point? That’s exactly what I said. Who has ever said anything in here about marriage? What male in here complaining about his dick cares about marriage or children?

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People have accused me of being misogynist when I’m the least misogynist man here. I place the blame where it squarely belongs - big penis men and their “bros”. That’s my crime. I’ve provoked some massive flame wars in the past by stating this. It drives some men into a rage, those who believe in some imaginary pile of horseshit like the “bro code”. If there weren’t any men with big penises, SPS wouldn’t be an issue. In that sense, I’m a sexual Marxist. Down with the cocktocracy.

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40 minutes ago, Klingpeach said:

As a small dick man you better accept your fucking place in the “cocktocracy” and give your superiors proper respect.

Not really. Actually its about physical attractiveness and money. Big dicks are a big bonus but usually money tops it. You think every president of the united states got that far because they were hung like donkeys?!?!?? please.

a little advise to you Klingpeach which most people are likely too polite or even too wary to tell you; stop wallowing in self pity so much I dare say you may find you might actually ENJOY your life once in a while! just a suggestion I know its crazy the prospect of perhaps not throwing yourself a constant pity party every day all day but remember you are not the only one who has been through bad times in his life. Believe it or not even very hung males have tragedy and bad things happen to them unless the sheer incredible energy of having a big dick has this magical power scientists have not learned about yet that somehow makes them immune to things such as sickness, mental illness, family tragedy, financial problems, marriage breakdown, victims of crime, drink addiction, drug addiction, gambling addiction, trauma from past abuse etc etc etc the list goes on and as far as I know the darkness on earth that causes these things that ruin people could give a rats a** if you are hung like a donkey or a gerbil but I suppose everything bad in the world has only ever happened to small or average guys right? and every guy hung like a horse leads this lavish rich wonderful life by default right? yeh seems totally legit. Totally legit.

I know this all might seem as alien and otherworldly to you but hey its just worth trying sometime to stop being so miserable and aggressive. :)

This wasn't to be mean but just try to get you to realise you are taking this way... WAY out of proportion here.

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The fact he was successful in business does not make him an “alpha”. Oprah Winfrey is a billionaire too. Is she an “alpha” male? There are a million definitions to fit that label and every guy you meet has their own. Incels and beta males will claim it’s “hard work” or “integrity” or a dozen other equally bland abstractions that have nothing to do with sexuality.

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You'll find successful people would be considered alpha in the business world and outside of it too I mean granted not all of them but you have to have a ruthless mentality and have charisma at the same time. Some of the most successful people I have ever known in the business world have been extremely charismatic people who radiate confidence (and they are likely sneaky and ruthless when they need to be to get ahead) they can't ALL have big dicks.

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