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Obsolete Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 On Sunday, May 08, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Resolute said: 29 minutes ago, mts said: 5 hours ago, robert said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsolete Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 5 hours ago, robert said: i still have a passion for music, but not like i used to. my love for creating music is for the most part gone. i get no joy from it anymore. I've just completely forgot about women, i don't care anymore. the only time i think about women is when i look at porn. i'm not really interested in anything these days i'm really bored with life. I hear you. Perhaps we could colab on a track some time in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsolete Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 On Sunday, May 08, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Resolute said: 45 minutes ago, mts said: 5 hours ago, robert said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsolete Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 49 minutes ago, mts said: I lost my passion for music because whenever I thought about what song lyrics I'd write all I could think about was this issue, it kind of killed the romanticism of the whole thing. I think I know what you mean. I don't associate hot passionate toe curling sex with a small penis at all, and it doesn't make sense to sing about all the things you'd do to make-up for it. I feel the exact same way about flirting. mts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrmaJean Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Robert, have you ever sat outside on a beautiful day, closed your eyes, and felt the warmth of the sunshine on your face? Have you ever felt a soft breeze blow across your skin, have you looked up at the bright blue sky and watched the clouds roll by, or listened to the birds chirping? Nature is always a healer for me. If nothing else, it helps to slow down my mind and bring me back into the present moment. If you still have a passion for music, maybe listening to some favorite songs with a pair of headphones on could be comforting? I think there are times we need to nurture ourselves to help balance some of the difficult and painful stuff we have to cope with. Maybe if you are able to get some positive endorphins going, it could offer you some relief from the pain you have been feeling. I hope you feel better. Roger, I agree that all humans are imperfect and flawed... We're all vulnerable beings, but I think that there is also beauty in that. I'm a very feeling and sensitive person so I feel love deeply and I am easily moved by beauty. I also tend to feel loss and pain deeply and I can be easily hurt. Sometimes we have to take the difficult along with the wonderful, I think. I don't think I can truly know what another person's experience is like. I don't see the world through their eyes, walk in their shoes, or live their life. I always try to understand as best as I possibly can, but I can only know my own life. I do know that every human being will one day face loss, illness, and death. Maybe that knowledge can draw us closer to one another along the path? robert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victimorthecrime Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 16 hours ago, TinyBlackDick said: Perhaps we could colab on a track some time in the future. Maybe a cover of Chuck Berry's "My Ding-a-Ling"? Maybe give it a dark gothy emo vibe. Obsolete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimp Fried Life Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 On 5/9/2016 at 0:25 AM, robert said: i still have a passion for music, but not like i used to. my love for creating music is for the most part gone. i get no joy from it anymore. I've just completely forgot about women, i don't care anymore. the only time i think about women is when i look at porn. i'm not really interested in anything these days i'm really bored with life. That's how I feel a lot of the time. The things I used to get pleasure from, the things I used to fill my time with instead of dating women and having sex, I no longer get pleasure from. Now my life is a lot of boredom and time spent thinking about the things that make me hate my life. Distractions no longer work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert Posted May 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 16 hours ago, IrmaJean said: Robert, have you ever sat outside on a beautiful day, closed your eyes, and felt the warmth of the sunshine on your face? Have you ever felt a soft breeze blow across your skin, have you looked up at the bright blue sky and watched the clouds roll by, or listened to the birds chirping? Nature is always a healer for me. If nothing else, it helps to slow down my mind and bring me back into the present moment. If you still have a passion for music, maybe listening to some favorite songs with a pair of headphones on could be comforting? I think there are times we need to nurture ourselves to help balance some of the difficult and painful stuff we have to cope with. Maybe if you are able to get some positive endorphins going, it could offer you some relief from the pain you have been feeling. I hope you feel better. Roger, I agree that all humans are imperfect and flawed... We're all vulnerable beings, but I think that there is also beauty in that. I'm a very feeling and sensitive person so I feel love deeply and I am easily moved by beauty. I also tend to feel loss and pain deeply and I can be easily hurt. Sometimes we have to take the difficult along with the wonderful, I think. I don't think I can truly know what another person's experience is like. I don't see the world through their eyes, walk in their shoes, or live their life. I always try to understand as best as I possibly can, but I can only know my own life. I do know that every human being will one day face loss, illness, and death. Maybe that knowledge can draw us closer to one another along the path? my mind is in complete disarray. sometimes i can't even think, i've let this problem completely consume my mind and my thoughts. i wish i could just find enough strength, but i'm mentally drained. i just want to lay down and die. my belief in god was the last light of hope i had. my belief in god was the only thing giving me strength to make it through this life. i've had plenty of disappointments in this life and now as i get older i have to accept reality and the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrmaJean Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Robert, it sounds as though the negative thoughts about yourself could be intrusive. Is there any activity that helps to clear your mind? Exercise? Meditation? Something self expressive? Is there a way for you to reconnect with God? Can you speak with someone from your faith for guidance? One of the hallmarks of depression is a loss of interest in activities that one used to enjoy. I hear that you are mentally tired and want to die. Is there anyone there with you who can offer comfort and an understanding ear, or a hug? Can you reach out for help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphon Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Just upgraded some bike parts. Exercise does help... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphon Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 And just did a close to 100km ride round singapore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphon Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Hi klingsor, I'm probably the type that likes to ride and enjoy the scenery type rather than some of my riding friends whose objective is to get a workout from their sessions. The by product of my exercise is better health. Exercise is also different from sps in my opinion that if I set goals to hit 100km session in 1 year. It's still achievable. My penis...i don't know how achievable my 6 inch target is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrmaJean Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 I had c diff colitis for 2 months a few years back and that was miserable. Chrohn's must be challenging to cope with. It's good that you have found a diet that is helpful and you get screened regularly. When I was caring for my father at home and he needed 24/7 supervision and care, I struggled with not being able to leave the house and my dad's care was both physically and mentally draining. I felt a lot of aggravated, frustated energy...so we hired a caregiver to come to the house several days a week so I could get out and exercise. I think the combination of being outside in nature and the physical exertion helped to calm my mind as well as release pent up, aggravated feelings. Klingsor, are you able to use a treadmill or exercise bike or something that isn't too taxing for your physical health? Robert, what has helped in the past? robert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert Posted May 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 7 hours ago, IrmaJean said: Robert, what has helped in the past? exercise and going outside, that used to help me. i used to at least exercise everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 47 minutes ago, RogerJay said: One of the great things about running is that it isn't (or doesn't need to be) competitive. unfortunately, roger, for self conscious people, everything is a competition, even if there's no one else around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, RogerJay said: C'mon, Resolute, how can everything be a competition? Can constipation, for example, be a competition?! a self conscious person prone to constipation would always be "competing" with those who aren't prone to constipation. it's a simple concept. 3 minutes ago, RogerJay said: Seriously, if you're out running when there's literally nobody else in sight, if it's 5:00am, raining, dark, and if you're going flat out along a remote track, well, how can you feel like you're competing against anyone else...? the reason you have such a hard time comprehending this is because you don't know what true self consciousness is. there needn't be anyone physically present with whom to compete. all a self conscious person needs is the mental image of all the people whom he's ever seen (heard of, read about, etc.), and he'll be competing with them (and those like them) at any given activity. in fact, it's not just activities; even just sitting or lying down and knowing how physically (or intellectually etc.) inferior you are to so many people, is enough to make you feel like shit every waking moment of your miserable life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, RogerJay said: Okay. But how about competing with fellow constipation sufferers? Could that still be a competition?? (That was my rhetorical question!) it wouldn't be much of a competition. they'd simply all be fellow sufferers in terms of constipation. 3 minutes ago, RogerJay said: I do see what you are saying. But there is a sense in which he (or she?) is 'competing' only against a mental chimera - one which was cooked up by his (or her?) mind, and which therefore only exists in imagination...yes? (Or am I missing something...?) it's not a chimera if the image is an actual representation of the actual person it resembles. 3 minutes ago, RogerJay said: There are plenty of things which can make a person "feel like shit every waking moment of (his) miserable life." (Trust me!) trust me, i know that all too well also. the more of these things a person has, the shittier he'll feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrmaJean Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 20 hours ago, robert said: exercise and going outside, that used to help me. i used to at least exercise everyday. Are you having difficulty now finding the motivation and strength to? @RogerJay I agree that we're all flawed and human. As malign has said before, we all put our pants on one leg at a time. @Klingsor I can understand how living with a chronic illness that affects one's overall health could leave a person feeling bitter. I understand better now what you meant about exercise, thank you for clarifying. I hope you can continue to manage your symptoms and that you don't have too many flare ups. Take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphon Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 I had my share of living with chronic illness. It was only after 2 year of cycling, diet and supplements that I think I m on the road to recovery. Thank God. I remembered 2 yrs ago. Walking 2 blocks makes me breathless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 1 hour ago, RogerJay said: Caesar is only a man... What I'm saying: the idealised images people have of the "A list male" or "high maintenance female", etc, are just fluff and hokum. We are all fragile, weak, deeply flawed creatures. i see nothing but unsubstantiated generalizations. i'm sure i can provide studies (or other form of proof) that prove (or at least strongly suggest) that the quality of life of people with fewer health problems is better than those with more health problems (assuming no other variables). the same goes for looks, wealth, status, location/environment/conditions, time in history and many other factors that determine just how shitty a person should feel. i'm sure that we could even make charts and tables if we wanted to do so. saying that "everyone is flawed" or "has problems" etc. is the pacification approach. not all problems are created equal (in both quantity and quality). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimp Fried Life Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 3 hours ago, Resolute said: a self conscious person prone to constipation would always be "competing" with those who aren't prone to constipation. it's a simple concept. the reason you have such a hard time comprehending this is because you don't know what true self consciousness is. there needn't be anyone physically present with whom to compete. all a self conscious person needs is the mental image of all the people whom he's ever seen (heard of, read about, etc.), and he'll be competing with them (and those like them) at any given activity. in fact, it's not just activities; even just sitting or lying down and knowing how physically (or intellectually etc.) inferior you are to so many people, is enough to make you feel like shit every waking moment of your miserable life. I'm a very self conscious person but I don't feel the need to compete with everyone. Sounds to me that you have some sort of inferiority complex and that makes you feel you have to prove you're as good as or better than everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 15 minutes ago, lifelongvirgin said: I'm a very self conscious person but I don't feel the need to compete with everyone. Sounds to me that you have some sort of inferiority complex and that makes you feel you have to prove you're as good as or better than everyone else. perhaps i do. i'd still consider it a form (advanced form) of self consciousness (self awareness) tho. humans were not meant to be hyper aware (of themselves, others, their environment or the world in general), as that is detrimental to their "survival" and "success". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, RogerJay said: Resolute, isn't it kind of dubious to talk about "studies" or "proof" without actually citing such? (Because it just draws sharp attention to their absence!) Be that as it may - I actually very much agree with the highlighted part here. as you yourself sort of hinted, some of this stuff is self evident. i've actually stumbled on some material about attractive people having more advantages and opportunities and generally better lifestyles. 2 minutes ago, RogerJay said: Saying that everyone is flawed (and more than that is damned well on the road to death!) is a statement of fact. the difference is that people aren't equally flawed, nor are they equally aware of their demise. 2 minutes ago, RogerJay said: I guess nobody here is saying that all problems are crated equal, are they? But one thing is for sure: all problems will be equally irrelevant in a few years time when we are all dead... actually, there do seem to be some insinuations (from both you and beth) that all problems are somehow not that different from each other. another problem is that there isn't any guarantee that once our lives end, so too will our suffering. (no guarantee that our consciousnesses will end permanently) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrmaJean Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 I believe that we can't know what life may be like for others. Why not place our focus and energy into helping ourselves? Gryphon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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