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40 minutes ago, Jessie said:

And I have seen many asain men and women strongly deny this saying they are only marginally smaller.

Totally agree. It is the condoms what tell the truest tale (in spite of Ressy babes protest!!) In Asia most condoms have girth slightly smaller than US and Britain etcetera. But only a little bit smaller!!

Btw Durex tried making XXL size for Britain (with girth like 120mm) and....................they discontinued to lack of sales!! So go figure boys!! lol

40 minutes ago, Jessie said:

On a white male 3 inches fully erect is a micropenis so its unlikey the average korean is only 3.8.

That said, such articles did tempt me to live in one of the those courntries- though I havent managed to do it- loser that I am.

Seriously. So are you like packing a real deal micro size Jessie??

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im 4x4. 

the definition for micro ranges from 3inch to 3.75 inch.

I suspect the 3 inch is for stretched flaccid and the 3.75 is for BP erect.

Either way I dont qualify for micro- though I am clealrly not far off.

I have had relations with 5 women- all of which have rejected me.

2 of which expressed extreme disappointment and frustration at my size

Though I believe all 5 left me due to size reasons.

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@Jessie, from what i recall from wikipedia, a micropenis is generally anything under 7 cm (under 2.756 inches). and even then, this only accounts for length. so what about girth? i mean a 2.7" penis that has enough girth (i won't assign a number) could still be worked with.

i wanna restate my protest at your figures. i mean even in the video to which you yourself linked (the one where women draw their ideal penis) most drawn penises were under average (your claimed average of 6.3x5). now, i know it's difficult to accurately estimate from the drawings in the video, but it does seem that my eyes and yours see things very differently.

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the vast majority of sources quote 3 inches length as micropenis.

Though some stay 3.75 inches.

I have never ever seen a reference to girth in relation to micropenis though I would imagine that minus 2 standard deviations from the mean would likely put a penis in that region.

 

As to the video its worth noting the women were using A3 size paper not A4 size paper. In which case they were pretty large diagrams.

And I certainly hope they were 'large' and not 'medium' as they dwarfed what I have!

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3 hours ago, Jessie said:

im 4x4. 

the definition for micro ranges from 3inch to 3.75 inch.

I suspect the 3 inch is for stretched flaccid and the 3.75 is for BP erect.

Either way I dont qualify for micro- though I am clealrly not far off.

I have had relations with 5 women- all of which have rejected me.

2 of which expressed extreme disappointment and frustration at my size

Though I believe all 5 left me due to size reasons.

I'm sorry. That's really fucking uncool man!!

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11 hours ago, Jessie said:

As to the video its worth noting the women were using A3 size paper not A4 size paper. In which case they were pretty large diagrams.

idk what a3 and a4 are, but i assumed that the length of the papers was around 30cm and the width was 15-20cm (probably closer to 20cm).

 

11 hours ago, Jessie said:

And I certainly hope they were 'large' and not 'medium' as they dwarfed what I have!

i have a feeling that--visually--you're underestimating your own size/measurements while overestimating those of others.

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8 hours ago, Resolute said:

i am certain that this number (bone pressed) would place tens (and possibly hundreds) of millions of males (around the world) in the micropenis category.

I have read in medical journals that 0.2%-0.6% of all males have micropenis or microphallus.

Given the earth has a population of 7 billion and nearly half are males then yes its a lot of people with this awful curse.

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8 hours ago, Resolute said:

idk what a3 and a4 are, but i assumed that the length of the papers was around 30cm and the width was 15-20cm (probably closer to 20cm).

 

i have a feeling that--visually--you're underestimating your own size/measurements while overestimating those of others.

if you compare the size of the diagrams to the dimensions on A3 paper then yes they were pretty thick and long penises.

You are referencing a body dysmorphic disorder. I dont have that. I know how to use a ruler and my abilities to estimate from a frozen image are just fine.

I also am able to interpret graphs, data sets and surveys.

I also didnt imagine my rejection from 5 women nor the 100s of examples in my life of women praising large penises and denigrating small penises.

Sometimes life is cruel. just the way it is.

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17 minutes ago, Jessie said:

Sometimes life is cruel. just the way it is.

I wish I had known this when I was much younger.  Based on the bullying and illnesses I suffered as a child you would think that I would have learned but I trusted my mother that things would be different once I grew up and I trusted the Catholic Church that goodness is rewarded.  Life is about one thing and one thing only: power.  

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5 hours ago, Jessie said:

if you compare the size of the diagrams to the dimensions on A3 paper then yes they were pretty thick and long penises.

You are referencing a body dysmorphic disorder. I dont have that. I know how to use a ruler and my abilities to estimate from a frozen image are just fine.

I also am able to interpret graphs, data sets and surveys.

I also didnt imagine my rejection from 5 women nor the 100s of examples in my life of women praising large penises and denigrating small penises.

Sometimes life is cruel. just the way it is.

I gotta agree with Ressy babes this time!! For me most of the drawings (apart from the black girl's which was unreal even for porno land) looked like average territory more or less....

Btw could you be black Jessie??

Now don't go gettin me wrong. I don't give a jack's ass whether a person is black or white or whatever. But I reckon some black dudes may beat themselves up over a totally OK peen (cos of the whole crap that people say about black cocks all being huge, ya know.)

But it's like with Asian peens, the differences aren't that big. At the end of the day.

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9 hours ago, Jessie said:

I have read in medical journals that 0.2%-0.6% of all males have micropenis or microphallus.

Given the earth has a population of 7 billion and nearly half are males then yes its a lot of people with this awful curse.

i was considering only males 13 and above. if we take into account that there are more females than males, and we discount any male under 13, we are left with maybe 2 billion males. and i think that more than 10% of those are not above 3.75 inches; that's over 200 million guys easily. but i know there's no way that either of us can really substantiate our opinions.

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10 hours ago, Jessie said:

if you compare the size of the diagrams to the dimensions on A3 paper then yes they were pretty thick and long penises.

i just googled a3 paper and it seems that a3 paper dimensions are 297x420mm or 11.7x16.5 inches. there's no way that's what the women were using. it must be a4 paper which are 210x297mm or 8.3x11.7 inches. i mean just compare the paper pads and the drawings to their hands etc. how big do you think those women's hands are?

   
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You are referencing a body dysmorphic disorder. I dont have that. I know how to use a ruler and my abilities to estimate from a frozen image are just fine.

actually, according to wikipedia, bdd is:

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a mental disorder characterized by an obsessive preoccupation that some aspect of one's own appearance is severely flawed and warrants exceptional measures to hide or fix it.[1] In BDD's delusional variant, the flaw is imagined.[2] If the flaw is actual, its importance is severely exaggerated.[2] Either way, one's thoughts about it are pervasive and intrusive, occupying up to several hours a day. The DSM-5 categorizes BDD in the obsessive–compulsive spectrum, and distinguishes it from anorexia nervosa.

based on this definition, most of us have bdd, including me and you.

 

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I also am able to interpret graphs, data sets and surveys.

i'm sure you are... but almost everyone has a confirmation bias to some degree (some much more than others).

 

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I also didnt imagine my rejection from 5 women 

i have no doubt that this actually happened to you. however, extreme misfortune (for any person) is not inconceivable. and sometimes that very unreasonable bad luck stays with a person for life.

 

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nor the 100s of examples in my life of women praising large penises and denigrating small penises.

yes, but many people don't know what large (above average) and small (below average) really is. and sometimes people exaggerate. you can't imagine how many women in porn describe normal penises as huge and so on. and i've also seen the opposite (in cuckolding videos for instance) where they make fun of not so small penises. in fact, sometimes (in the aforementioned genre) both guys are pretty much the same size, and one is considered huge while the other tiny.

the bottom line is, don't take everything people say at face value.

 

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Sometimes life is cruel. just the way it is.

believe me, jessie, if anyone in this world knows about how cruel life is, it's me. i hope you know that none of what i say is meant to insult, offend or upset you. it's merely a friendly discussion between people with different views.

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6 hours ago, Resolute said:

i just googled a3 paper and it seems that a3 paper dimensions are 297x420mm or 11.7x16.5 inches. there's no way that's what the women were using. it must be a4 paper which are 210x297mm or 8.3x11.7 inches. i mean just compare the paper pads and the drawings to their hands etc. how big do you think those women's hands are?

Just quickly watched that clip again. It did look to me like A3 size pad Ressy Babe. But who knows?!!

6 hours ago, Resolute said:

@DurexRedux, jessie is a white bloke (according to him a tall and good-looking one at that).

OK

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So, yeah. Where was I? I think that there are various ways in which a penis can fall into a category perceived as small. I am of the opinion that a penis that is thicker at the base and thinner towards the head results in an introverted psychosexual persona and leads to a more favourable and measured internal reaction to SPS. They can enjoy fairly balanced relationships with women - or just as likely be okay alone. The rate of this introversion depends also on the length to girth ratio. 

 

Longer, thinner men - especially those that carry the greatest amount of girth towards the glans of the penis are at a greater risk of destructive behaviour, because their psychosexual esteem lies in the hands of (realised and unrealised) partners or lovers. This external loci of control can lead to erratic and dangerous behaviour. They're more likely to obsess over women and could perhaps get more sex - but the mental response to this sex is more of a conflicted addiction.

 

I suppose I owe credence to my introvertedness on the matter because I fall into the former category, and I find it easier to avoid women without obsessing over them. I think the truest victims of SPS or those that fall into the latter group - despite the misconception that their counterparts have it worse due to a sort of avoidance. 

 

In the end, it doesn't matter. 

I can share, I can complain, but in the end I still have a small penis. And there are gun slinging studs that are out there taming the pussycats that could conquer me on account of my low grades weapon. The brash doer versus the emasculated thinker. I lose. I lose. I lose. 

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1 hour ago, Small said:

So, yeah. Where was I? I think that there are various ways in which a penis can fall into a category perceived as small. I am of the opinion that a penis that is thicker at the base and thinner towards the head results in an introverted psychosexual persona and leads to a more favourable and measured internal reaction to SPS. They can enjoy fairly balanced relationships with women - or just as likely be okay alone. The rate of this introversion depends also on the length to girth ratio. 

 

Longer, thinner men - especially those that carry the greatest amount of girth towards the glans of the penis are at a greater risk of destructive behaviour, because their psychosexual esteem lies in the hands of (realised and unrealised) partners or lovers. This external loci of control can lead to erratic and dangerous behaviour. They're more likely to obsess over women and could perhaps get more sex - but the mental response to this sex is more of a conflicted addiction.

 

I suppose I owe credence to my introvertedness on the matter because I fall into the former category, and I find it easier to avoid women without obsessing over them. I think the truest victims of SPS or those that fall into the latter group - despite the misconception that their counterparts have it worse due to a sort of avoidance. 

 

In the end, it doesn't matter. 

I can share, I can complain, but in the end I still have a small penis. And there are gun slinging studs that are out there taming the pussycats that could conquer me on account of my low grades weapon. The brash doer versus the emasculated thinker. I lose. I lose. I lose. 

This is a follow up to the BBC's My Penis & I. I found it quite revealing. I've long believed we are living in a woman's world masquerading as a man's, but recently I've started to realise that this place just isn't built for permanent happiness, and in many cases happiness full stop. But whatever way I cut the self pity cake, I always get a slice of 'its in your mind'. A really small cock is a fact, being miserable because of it is a choice. The bloke hosting the show has a 3" but has really got his mind in check, he's a really cool guy and I think he had some kids now too. Anyway, even this add on to the original is a really good doc. ☮

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I have myself started to resent the fact that my sexual confidence is in the hands of anyone other than myself, to a point that I feel like (note that I didn't say wouldn't) I would even resent placing it in the hands of a woman who really loved me and my penis, or despite my penis, whichever. I've started hating the fact that I even have to masturbate to the idea of something that is not entirely within my control. I hate the idea of even touching a woman's genitals because I despise everything about the uneven power balance between it and my self-esteem; I'd rather wake up gay tomorrow so I could start masturbating to my own body because I'm so fucking tired of hating not women, but my relationship to women. I tried to watch PIV porn again for the first time in awhile and the sight of a vagina still incurs nothing but seething anger for me.

It's that same feeling of futile rebelliousness a teenager might feel toward a parent or authority figure that loves them and whom they love, but whom they none the less resent because at any point they could be forced by that person to forfeit their dignity and be subservient. I know the typical response to a feeling like this would be "...yeah but any woman who would try to exercise power in that way isn't worth your time, etc." Yeah I know; it's not the women, it's my own mind exercising that power over itself and I can't change that. I don't want to make my small penis work for anyone or prove to myself that I can give an orgasm to anyone. I just want it to be big so I could not give a fuck whether or not anyone likes it because I know it's good. I want to be able to tell this "parent" of my self esteem to go fuck itself should I ever need to. It feels humiliating to even be dependent at all, even in the context of a completely healthy relationship.

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4 hours ago, CNL said:

I just want it to be big so I could not give a fuck whether or not anyone likes it because I know it's good.

That attitude sounds ideal. But from experience of friends and family members it breeds frustration, anger and eventually cheating. If you're with a girl and you 'think' you're the dogs bollocks, you'd better be the dogs bollocks, otherwise, when the real deal turns up, she'll treat you the same way, like nothing. I honestly can't deal with the stress of stressing over my cock anymore. I did it for a solid 20 years, enough is enough. If my cock is too small for you, then (in the nicest possible way) get the fuck out of my face. I spent so long looking for the answer (surgery, stretching, pills, injections) the truth is, as hard as it is to accept, and it IS hard to accept...it's all in the mind. Either let it go, or hang on for dear life as it drags you through a few more levels of hell. There no answer 'out there'. Go within, or go without. Believe me, short of pumping your Johnson with saline and sporting a water balloon for the rest of your life, this is the end of the road. ☮?

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14 minutes ago, YahwehOrTheHighway said:

... it's all in the mind. Either let it go, or hang on for dear life as it drags you through a few more levels of hell. There no answer 'out there'. Go within, or go without.

if we lived in a virtual reality, then yes, "it's all in the mind", literally. unfortunately, this is real life, and the mind can never really influence reality. it can only partially affect your perception of that reality. sorry to burst your water balloon.

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