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I can't help but post here after reading through many of these threads.

For starters, I have a larger-than-average penis (at least according to the studies) but I've always been insecure about my size. I never even kissed a girl until my mid-20s, and didn't lose my virginity until a short while later. I never went to any proms, never had any girlfriends, hell, I didn't really have any good female friends.

However, about 4 years ago I made a concerted effort to change myself, both physically and mentally. Here's a few lessons I learned.

1. Size does matter--to an extent. If you're smaller than 5" (length or girth), then read the next paragraph. If you're in the average range, you're OK. Really. I'm not here to bullshit you. If you can touch either the cervix, g-spot, or a-spot, you're OK.

2. PE works. I've dabbled on-and-off for the past year-and-a-half after I was concerned my size was shrinking due to inactivity, smoking, over-excessive wanking, and other bad health habits. Since I started not only did I notice an increase but my girlfriend actually felt the difference (her words exactly upon penetration "did it get bigger?") There are two main forums I recommend, Matters of Size and Thunder's Place, both of which contain great, supportive, non-judgmental communities. You'll find guys who've gone from around 4.5" inches to more than 7" in less than a few years with actual proof. I honestly was skeptical the first time I heard of PE but I can't argue with the number of real success stories. It will take time and commitment--the only question is whether or not you have the heart and desire to do it. Just be careful not to injure yourself and read, read, read before you start--namely, beware of injuring capillaries and the turkey neck (more cosmetic than anything).

3. If you don't respect yourself a woman will never respect you. Women are not better than you. They're human fucking beings, like everyone else. Women hate doormats because doormats think women are innocent princesses. Do you realize how much pressure it is for a woman to act like a pious princess 24/7? Who wants that?

4. If you're out of shape or overweight, then play a sport and hit the gym. I started going to the gym just a few weeks ago, and following Tim Ferriss' workout plan, am already seeing a difference. Honestly, women really don't care about muscles and even your weight unless you're obese. But your stamina and sense of self will improve immediately.

5. The best self-help, period, is in the "pickup" or "seduction" community. It's not about picking up girls as it is about taking responsibility for your happiness, seeing through society's bullshit, and more importantly, taking ACTION. David DeAngelo, Neil Strauss, Pickup101, RSD... all great stuff.

6. Don't yield to society's pressure or peer pressure. I like thin, in-shape college women who are intelligent and creative. I don't want a woman in her late 20s or 30s. I don't want an overweight woman. I don't want an average woman. I don't want to settle down right now and have kids. I don't want to raise someone else's kids either. I don't even want a long-term relationship right now. Does that make me a bad person? Who cares. I'm honest with my intentions and that's that.

7. A huge part of sex is mental and psychological. The best book on sex IMO is "The Sex God Method." Yeah, sounds corny, but it mostly focuses on the non-physical aspects of sex. David Shade is another good resource.

8. People cannot be convinced to change--it must ultimately come from within. On the down side, that means this long-winded post may just be a waste of time. On the up side, those of you who are fed up (no pun intended to a certain user) will use this as an extra spark of motivation.

Best of luck and much respect to my fellow brethren.

Edited by Jack's Smirking Revenge
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I think you're missing the point, Jack.

If it was just a matter of pumping up the size of a body part (which leads to complications I won't try to discuss), there wouldn't be a place for the issue on our forum. Guys would just go inflate themselves, and everything would be fine. Suffice it to say that just because something worked for you doesn't mean it works for others.

The issue, the need, is something more fundamental than that. It's a matter of belief, in oneself. It's great that you feel you have that, and it's great however you got it. It's just not something you can pass on to someone else directly, if you see what I mean. We each find it (or don't) for ourselves.

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If you read my first post from top to bottom it focuses more on confidence and self-improvement more than anything else. Improving a certain physical attribute will not eliminate all their problems; but it will at least eliminate one from their perceived problems, and allow them to focus on the other issues at hand.

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Great post! I've done PE off and On and I'm sticking to it this time as I restart for my third try.

I did boxing for a short spurt and it was amazing. Dropped a bunch of weight, got stronger, took and delivered punches. The only problem was that it distracted me, but a lot of it was a good distraction as it helped me deal with my fears in a small way.

The biggest hurdle to a male who has changed his perspective from pussy to man is the lack of time. A man has to work and self improve, has to play the game, has to read, has to accomplish. There is so much out there it can be overwhelming and that can reintroduce pussy thoughts quite easily. Do I spend my time taking dance classes, exercising, reading, or doing business? When you've eliminated the pussy option from your life path you realize that you have a limited time capacity to live life and this then becomes another set of depressive circumstances. This though is much better than being stuck in pussy mode.

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I'll take note of your tips.

I think PE is still in its infant stages but I think the more it is discussed online and the more the market shifts towards it will be for the better. Many men suffer from penis size anxiety and many cruel women exploit this so the interest in penis enlargement will increase, not decrease over time.

Men who are self defeating; who couldn't tell themselves what they think is a lie for even one brief second are going to struggle at making any gains. They haven't discovered that it's crucial to have faith in your life despite the odds, that all great men do.

That said there is a lot of pseudo science involved and a lot of people who don't want PE to work. Many women get pleasure and control from their cruelty; and to have that taken away would be devastating to them.

I like and hope for the weight training analogy - dismissed at first, and then becoming mainstream.

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PE is currently a multi-million dollar industry and the vast majority of it is a scam besides the surgeries which hold risks that many of us are unwilling to take including myself.

I am not sure about the exercises working but I would encourage anyone who claims to be experiencing significant growth to speak with medical researchers as it could be possible to make billions off of something like this if it does indeed work. I personally would need to see irrefutable proof before I would try something like this out as injury is a legitimate concern of mine.

I hope that researchers are looking into creating new PE technology that has less risk as it can make them millions and will also help many people who lack in girth or length. I hope it happens sooner rather than later.

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PE is currently a multi-million dollar industry and the vast majority of it is a scam besides the surgeries which hold risks that many of us are unwilling to take including myself.

I am not sure about the exercises working but I would encourage anyone who claims to be experiencing significant growth to speak with medical researchers as it could be possible to make billions off of something like this if it does indeed work. I personally would need to see irrefutable proof before I would try something like this out as injury is a legitimate concern of mine.

I hope that researchers are looking into creating new PE technology that has less risk as it can make them millions and will also help many people who lack in girth or length. I hope it happens sooner rather than later.

I don't understand the "I fear for my penis" argument. You think that the majority of posters on the forum are lying in order to damage your penis? I can tell you from my anecdotal experience that PE at the very least increased my erection quality and sexual vigor. I felt myself more alive after doing it.

The reason this isn't a multi-billion dollar industry is because there isn't a miracle pill like Viagra to do the work for men. It's hard, complicated, and not very well supported with information. It's an esoteric practice at the moment. Factor in the cruel women and pussified men who would lose personal benefits if PE became mainstream. Also factor in standard medical science which tends to sway with the wind and become entrenched dogma.

Has there been a single test disproving PE?

You can always work hard at bettering yourself. I'll never quit struggling to be better, to be a winner. I'll keep trying, competing, and improving in order to reach personal satisfaction. I will not be a pussy and tell myself that's okay, it's maladaptive for 21st century males. The sooner you stop expecting compassion from the world is the sooner you get closer to achieving what's great in life.

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Bob and skynight, thanks for your insights. You guys are the positive voices men need in this forum!

I have to mirror Bob's last post on why PE is still dismissed immediately as skepticism. PE takes, at a minimum a few years of almost day-to-day dedicated time and commitment in order to gain a few inches of length and 1-2 inches of girth. Again, that's YEARS. Most people are looking for some magic pill or informercial device that will give them a huge penis in just a few easy payments of $19.95. Most people would rather DIE, unsatisfied, miserable, and lonely than even attempt to consider that their perspective on the world is wrong. It's the sad truth.

One of the best things any man can do is stop listening to the mainstream media (who's just trying to sell you more products) and stop reading comments from women online. Do you realize that most of these "size queen" women are just jaded, insecure, (almost always unattractive and overweight) losers who get their daily self-esteem dose by adopting their diva personas (whether online or in person)? Every time I see a guy kiss one of these women's asses via flirtatious PMs, winks, or reassuring Facebook comments because he thinks that's what a "good guy" does it makes me fucking sick.

If you don't respect yourself a woman will never respect you. Period.

Edited by Jack's Smirking Revenge
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Since it seems that multitudes of men have benefited from PE exercises, apparently the program is just one more example where the few of us smaller guys have failed, once again.

I fairly certain that if there had been any progress, it should have become obvious in the thirty some months in which I participated. Alas, it never happened.

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I know this is an old thread, but I'd just like to mention how the OP linked us to Thunders Palace and Matter of size. I'd like to point out that the most respected PE teacher (DLD) is an ex convict, crack-head, obsessive compulsive. If the preacher was a Urologist or any sort of well educated dude, perhaps I'd be less skeptical. Also, how can you tell that the members of Thunders Palace are not judgemental? I coudlnt even make an account on there or contact a single soul from that place. Matterofsize is the main page for DLD (the creator aka double long daddy) and despite him providing all this free "useful" info, he's still making certain things only accessible to members, and in hsi videos, you can clearly tell he's not the ridiculous size he claims to be. He's in the top 2% for sure, but purely by genetics.

I hope that people can find this post of mine from google searches and respond because I'm sure I'm not the only one that's skeptical of all those testimonials claiming ridiculous gains. Sure, i think i'd be ultimately happy with a larger than "average" or even good average penis size...my insecurities would disappeare for the most part. However, who do I trust? Either a group of people that worship some ex convict, or an actual MD?

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