IrmaJean Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Let's be honest with one another, shall we? I know who you are. I've done my best and given my heart to this place for a year and a half now, but I have limitations too and I won't be run all over like this.You have personal feelings about this and that happens sometimes. Of course people can comment, but within the rules of the community. This is a good time to use sound judgment and back away. If you care to air your feelings out in an email, I'd be more than willing. Here on the boards, we must respect one another at all times and not minimize the pain of others. Those are the rules.I am imposing a ban.(and, btw, no 12 year old of mine would ever watch a video like that. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GingerSnap Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Feeling without hope has to be rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I felt stupid trying that Jelqing thing. I tried it for a week, then quit. And my problems are not self created. I simply look at the stats for average penis size, average height, and see that I don't compare. Then I look at my past dating/sexual experiences, and realize that both have contributed to those failures. And as I posted in my first message, the real issue with a small penis is that I don't enjoy sex that much, as there's not much room to maneuver and many positions are very limited. Also, the problem with my height is that many women would never consider me as a partner at all. Again, I appreciate the comments trying to help. But the suggested help is just too mainstream and predictable. "This problem is in your head""You created this problem""Go to a therapist""Height doesn't matter""Penis Size doesn't matter"The only solutions that would work would be to have a bigger, average sized penis and/or grow a few inches in height. NO OTHER SOLUTION is meaningful.Thanks for trying to help, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Back to the subject: On the homemade porn, I don't think a lot of guys would want to be on film with a smaller penis and, frankly, what self-respecting guy would want to be making amateur porn? Really. If you won't consider counseling for your issue, what about a group specific to your issue? There seems to be something online for everyone now. I know it is hard for guy to be shorter and funny thing is, a lot of the Army officers were shorter guys and I think that position made them feel taller and more confident. Maybe you just need to find something that will make you feel more competent across the board. In a loving relationship, all of this can be worked out - there are techniques and such. Spend more time researching the how to work with what you do have. You are obsessing about this height and "length" thing. Stop comparing yourself to guys in porn and spend that time improving things about yourself that you can actually control.I don't want to "feel more competent across the board." I already know I'm more intelligent than most people, and it doesn't matter. My issues are my small penis size and short height. What makes you think I want a "loving relationship?" This isn't a thread about relationships. It's a message board about having a small penis. I don't want to research on how to work with "what I have", because I don't have much. I have penis smaller than 99% of other men, and my height is 95%-97% less than other men. That means I am limited in ways that cannot be fixed. And I have spent years improving things I can control (getting in shape, getting a college degree) and I already said those things do not compensate for my two biggest problems. I am still almost 35, unmarried, no kids, unemployed. I fit the statistics to a T, that short men are discriminated against in society, both in the workforce and in the dating world. I simply don't want to live another day with these problems.Okay, I'll compare my height to guys and girls I see on the street, or at the mall. Guess what? I don't compare there either. I walked in a mall a few days ago and counted the amount of women who were as tall/taller than me vs. women who were shorter. Guess what? 12 girls were as tall/taller, and only 6 were shorter. I'm definitely outmatched genetically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Yes, I know I will be miserable for the rest of my life. That I do accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 suppose for a moment that the dick and height fairy were to visit you at night and grant you an average sized penis and an average sized height. Would you suddenly be happy? Really? Is that all it would take? Be honest with yourself and give that some serious thought. What would those two things actually change? Would they change who you are? Would they change your ability to relate to people in some fundamental way? Or would the changes be more or less superficial?First I would ask where was this fairy 17 years ago when it would have helped me more, instead of me having a bad life for those years.Then I would be happy that I'm of average height and have an average penis. First, more women would be willing to date me, superficial or not. Then, when I'd have sex, I would enjoy it more, and the female would enjoy it more. Regardless of if the change is "superficial" or not, both would improve my life greatly. As of now, at my current less than average penis size and height, I'm very limited. It's been that way for 17-20 years, and it's not going to change now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I may try Jelqing more but I felt stupid and it was uncomfortable doing it. How long would it take to go from just over 4" to 6"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 You're deluding yourself into thinking those two things haven't made my life much worse than an average guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Being an average height and having an average penis would have given me a much better chance. Yes, or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 No, the problem is not me thinking that's the case. The problem is physical. Seriously, I think I've had about all of the "TV movie" help I can take. You can't argue with people who disregard facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 What is that wall of text? I don't need cognitive help in associating new feelings with my small penis. I already hate having a small penis. I hate being short. Nothing will change that, you can't trick yourself into liking it, that's called being delusional. What you're suggesting is that I learn to live with it, which I already am living with it. That's not the problem at all. Please don't respond again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 The way I feel may be feelings and therefore not true except in my own reality, but it is true that I have a small penis (99% of men have a bigger one) and my height is short (95%+ adult men are taller). Those are not feelings, those are facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'm here because I suffer from having a small penis and therefore a bad sex life. I looked it up online, read a ton of message boards with other people complaining about the same issue. I also read that post by the good doctor about it where they had to close the comments section. Then I lurked awhile, and when I felt like it, posted about the problem myself. Why are you here, on the Small Penis Syndrome message board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 So when somebody doesn't listen to your advice you tell them they're worthless? Why would I ever take advice from someone who could turn on a dime. Look... I appreciate you trying to help. It's just that what you suggest is not helping the situation at all, and could never help anybody unless they'd be willing to disregard facts. That's all I'm saying. That's for trying to help, but your advice doesn't solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 If you don't have a small penis you don't belong on this message board. You don't know what it's like to have a small penis. It's so easy to tell someone how they should feel or see themselves when you don't suffer from the same issue. Only another guy with a small penis would ever understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Karamazov Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 If you truely believed that you wouldn't be on this site venting. You haven't given up all hope even if you think you have. You are still reaching out, so please, why not consider some of these suggestions i.e. therapy and others above. What have you got to lose? Doesn't it make sense to at least try? Maybe you succed, maybe not...but at least you'll know you gave it your all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Not looking for anything, just posted my opinion and thoughts on it and life. I never asked for help or suggestions. There's nothing you can say or suggest that would make this problem better for anyone who suffers from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'm not reaching out, I'm just venting and showing my anger. Too many times we look for solutions when there aren't any, instead of just venting our anger. I could vent this anger every day for 3 years and it would never run out. I'm just another guy with a miserable life on the verge of a psychotic break. There are millions of people like me. Some do crazy stuff to others around them, some vent their anger on message boards. In the end, it's all meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flander Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 off topic for this part of the forum, but I'm wondering what occupations where being below average in height would be a problem. There are a number of guys at the office that are below 5'6", including a couple VPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrmaJean Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 If you don't have a small penis you don't belong on this message board. I can understand that you want to express your feelings with others who suffer a similar pain. Be mindful, though, of the potential of falling into a pattern which further intensifies your pain.There's nothing you can say or suggest that would make this problem better for anyone who suffers from it. You can't break out of a negative pattern by continuing with the same.Take care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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toulouse_lautrec Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Local examples don't matter. Short men are less likely to be hired, and are regularly paid less. There was a study done that showed for every inch of height, you were paid on average $1000 more. I've researched it, and studies have proven it, whether or not your "local office" is any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toulouse_lautrec Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I've already missed a lot of life because of my height. High school, college, etc, were all miserable. Again, sex is unsatisfying to me because of my penis size, too. It's just never been good. And it has nothing to do with watching too much porn. I watched porn because I couldn't get laid, not because I enjoyed porn. I knew my penis was smaller even before I started watching porn. That stats back it up, in terms of penis size and height compared to others.I understand what you mean when you say I need to find a way to cope or I'm going to continue to be miserable. The only options are accept it or don't accept it. However, I choose the misery because it is true. Copping with it, by deluding myself, is a worse choice, IMHO. And also, not much will come from accepting it. Me accepting it will not change how women and others think about my height when they meet me. It will not change what they think about my penis size. It will also not change the "facts" that I'm far less than average in height and penis size. The only thing accepting it will do is make my day to day life easier to deal with. And I know what you're going to say... if you accept it, you'll be more positive and others will respond to that positive attitude. I'm sorry to say, that's bullsh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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