Hate having a 4" erect penis

[Jeep]

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[5foot6betamale]

well you may wanna watch 'my penis and I' which shows a guy rejected and humiliated by school friends and women due to his small penis and was about 5'6 in height- and he is now married.

And his wife is lovely- she was in the documentary

So you can win (I respect why you are bitter- I have a selection of T-shirts on bitter).

Im sure there are plenty of girls that will accept your height and size.

If its not too personal (of course it is!) whats your girth?

Watched it. So what if he has a wife? His penis is still small, 3.5 inches, right? I'm not saying you can't have a wife or GF if you have a small penis and short height, but the quality of your wife, her looks, and the quality of your life will be less than average. I think the documentary proves that.

[Thermonuclear Warrior]

What about my height, is that pointless too? Don't you realize all the great experiences you're denied when you have a small penis and your height is short? I have less opportunity than the average man, through no fault of my own. And that realization sucks the most.

Yes, it's absolutely pointless. I haven't been denied anything and I'm the exact same size as you in both height and penile length +- 1/2 inch. YOU have been denying yourself great experiences, not your penis. The last girl I was with was taller than me and height wasn't even discussed. Height and penis size are not your issue, it's your perpetual negativity and stubborn personality. Dwelling on such superficial physical aspects hasn't accomplished anything and is thus pointless. We've been going back and forth now for nearly two years dude and you haven't tired out. The reason why you are restricted to unattractive females is because you restrict yourself. The problem is your personality. I'm not great looking either, yet the few girls I've been with were all slender and attractive besides one. Seriously, in the grand scheme of things a bit of flesh and bone is what's stopping you from enjoying your life (Doesn't this sound ridiculous?). You're not abnormal and there are countless people your size living well. To name a few, consider Angus Young, Henry Winkler, Ronnie James Dio (RIP),....(you can do a Google search and you'll find that a lot of famous celebrities are significantly below average in height) All of these guys are/were below average in height, some considerably shorter than you yet it didn't stop them from creating art and leaving a major impact on this world.

You have a very simplistic and superficial view of life and you ought to separate yourself from the so called 'ideals' you find online and in porn and in the media.

[Wastedlife]

Man with small penises eat the scraps from large penis males tables...and that’s about it. You will never sit at that table, no matter what you do. And women who tasted that table will never go back to being with anything below.

[Jessie]

Although Im guilty of negativity myself even I can see the muddled thinking here..

Betamale-

the 'quality' of a wife? not sure what that means but his wife was attractive and seemed a lovely person.

For a girl to be with us we need a more compassionate, caring, less selfish person- sound like good qualities to me?

And we are in no position to be fickle about looks... c'mon now... but hopefully we can find someone reasonably attractive to us personally.

Wasted Life-

look, tall, handsome, well endowed guys have easier and better sex lives than the average guy for sure, I suppose you could call it scraps from the table but its a negative perspective.

And some girls actively dislike very handsome men and also prefer smaller guys (less ego, more likely to be faithful etc etc).

For the women who have become accustomed to larger guys then I guess it probably is difficult to 'trade down' size-wise but I do recall some girls on here saying they have done just that.

[Jessie]

Jessie maybe you could start a well labelled thread with warnings and put your linkies there? That way people wouldn't come up against this kind of ninja esteem attack mid thread/mid conversation lol, just a thought.

As to the link... too provocative to take seriously really, 2 out of 10 for upsetting guys.

Edit: maybe a 3 for some original language.

Haha- Im not organised enough for such things- if I could marshal my thoughts so then perhaps I wouldnt hunt these things out in the 1st place.

Yeah, it was gung ho- but it still managed to upset me- why aren't I immune to this stuff!!!?? I give her a 6 for pain infliction...

[Wastedlife]

And some girls actively dislike very handsome men and also prefer smaller guys (less ego, more likely to be faithful etc etc).

They don't dislike handsome man and they don't prefer smaller man, they simply must accept those facts that tall, handsome and well hung males have a lot of choice with females and most likely they aren't good enough to keep "top man " interested. If they could keep handsome, tall, well hung man fitful they will never ever change them for small substandard males.

So pathetic small penis man like me might be able to get one of those discarded females when she finally gest tired of being passed around by "top man" and might settle for someone with small penis when she gets older. I personally I'm not interested in this game.

[Jessie]

Well I understand where you are coming from of course.

I suppose it's true to say all my exes are now happier with their bigger partners

It's also true that all 10 people concerned have imperfections too

We all have to compromise in life

Do we have to compromise more than most? Yep

Do our partners? Yep

And that's never more true than with relationships.

You cannot change your height or size but you can work on attitude and for some girls that can compensate.

[Wastedlife]

You cannot change your height or size but you can work on attitude and for some girls that can compensate.

maybe...and its a big maybe. And to find these women you need incredible luck, persistence and self confidence, three very rare things for someone with small penis.

[Jeep]

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[Jessie]

Jeep-

yeah barrouclough does have surprising charisma given what hes gone through and his size.

But he cant be the only small guy with a GF or wife.

Wasted-

You dont need to tell me!- last month I went mental when yet again it seemed impossible to meet someone who might accept me.

But Im determined to give it a few more shots... and i need to have a good outlook to maximise my chances... if they cant deal with my size and I cant deal with the pain of more rejection... well I will have to cross that bridge if it comes to it, but I gotta try and keep positive somehow... and barraclough is a real life person who married...

[Wastedlife]

But Im determined to give it a few more shots... and i need to have a good outlook to maximise my chances... if they cant deal with my size and I cant deal with the pain of more rejection... well I will have to cross that bridge if it comes to it, but I gotta try and keep positive somehow... and barraclough is a real life person who married...

good luck man.

this really nice girl messaged me on pof and wanted to meet up, I fucked up it and cut off contact cause of my small penis and anxiety. I feel like shit now. you are right give it a try at least. I wish I did.

[Jessie]

then message her back!

[Jeep]

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[Jessie]

haha- i prefer a front massage...

[Jessie]

On the 'thought catalogue' site they just asked 50 women if size mattered.

There tally is at the bottom.

Now I counted 10 of 50 that seemed to suggest they dont mind (at 20% Im delighted!)

But they came to the werid conclusion that 23 didtn care- which does not match the answers.

I know 'does size matter' is not quite the same as 'will a small pensi ruin sex' ut even so.

To me answers in bold are things I have heard so many times and REALLY annoy me.

1. Meryl, 28

A super small/soft dick isn’t going to do anything

but a huge dick hurts, usually, so like, it just needs to be normal sized/hard/he’s into it.

2. Jennifer, 28

It doesn’t matter to me as long as it isn’t too big or too small. (SUCH A STUPID STATEMENT IT STILL RANKLES)

3. Ali, 22

I don’t want to be scared of it.

Average is your friend.

4. Ashley, 26

It depends on a lot of factors — for me, it matters because I’m short so a dick that’s too big (read: long) definitely hurts in the “ow, you’re hitting my stomach” kind of way.

But one that’s too small

–you know, small enough to get lost in his pubic hair–

doesn’t do anything for me (legit asked, ‘is it in?’)

. But essentially, it comes down to whether or not he knows how to use it…cliche, I know, but it’s the truth.

5. Eve, 28

Yes, my ex had a very

short one

that was thick and it

did nothing for me.

6. Alex, 28

My last boyfriend had a long but

super skinny one, which was weird.

I don’t think it matters

in general.

7. Tiffany, 27

I honestly can’t really tell if it’s bigger or smaller than the last guy or what’s “average.” I mean

I would notice if it was huge or tiny,

I think, but that’s never happened to me. They all look pretty much the same and I think the difference is if a guy knows how to fuck.

8. Lacey, 29

It doesn’t matter

as much

as whether a guy is good in bed.

9. Rachel, 26

One guy was TOOOO big. It felt like someone trying to fit their entire body inside me. He was literally like if someone was like “here let me put this jar of tomato sauce inside you.” Jeez, I’d love to but NO I FUCKING PHYSICALLY CAN’T.

10. Amy, 26

Not unless it’s giant

or tiny.

I like the happy medium

11. Steph, 28

The first guy I was with had what I thought was probably a pretty big dick but he kept being like “look at this big dick I am fucking you with” so it was bad.

12. Nikki, 27

[somewhat famous person]’s dick was

literally a chapstick. Like a baby. The sex was so awful.

13. Lindsey, 26

It’s not size that makes a guy good. Or bad.

14. Jamie, 24

I think a guy with a big dick is more confident, so he’s better in bed.

15. Kristin, 30

It only matters if

it’s too extreme

one way.

16. Jackie, 24

Not unless I am doing it wrong?

17. Laura, 25

Uhhh yeah it does.

18. Jen, 26

To an extent, I

don’t want a thumb.

19. Tina, 29

Dick size is wayyyy down the list when it comes to whether a guy is good in bed: confidence, rhythm, making me comfortable, attraction—those are all much more important.

20. Tori, 25

Um, I don’t really care as long as it

isn’t weird looking.

21. Megan, 30

I don’t care about dick size really.

22. Lisa, 35

Making good or bad sex about dick size is a sad excuse for people who won’t figure out how to have good sex. It’s very rare that you can’t figure out how to have good sex with a guy, it’s just that you can’t do the same thing with different body types and expect it to feel the same.

23. Rachel, 25

I’ve never had too big, but

I’ve had too small.

So yes.

24. Jessica, 29

No. Guys are too hung up on this.

25. Dina, 28

A guy with a smaller penis is more attractive than a guy with a bigger penis who needs you to be all in awe of what he thinks is some cosmic accomplishment but really is just genes or biology or whatever.

26. Lucy, 21

I don’t think so…

27. Shannon, 25

I think it would be

awkward to be with a guy with a small penis.

It’s the elephant in the room.

28. Danielle, 27

I would be grossed out,

but I would get over it. It wouldn’t affect my feelings towards the guy.

(WTF IS SHE ON ABOUT?)

29. Kendra, 28

I think every girl holds her breathe a little bit because

she doesn’t want to be with a guy with a weird penis

for the rest of her life. But it’s only bad if it’s really irregular, otherwise it doesn’t matter at all.

30. Sarah, 20

It doesn’t matter the size as much as it does how you use it I think.

31. Danielle, 23

It could only make me like a guy more if he has a nice penis, but not less if he isn’t going to be a penis model anytime soon.

32. Amanda, 31

I honestly don’t really notice. I’ve seen a ton of dicks in my life and they all pretty much look and feel the same.

33. Sophie, 24

It’s

not a dealbreaker unless it’s really small

but in general, the bigger the better, within reason.

(ARE WOMEN ISSUED THIS PHRASE TO USE ON THEIR 16TH BIRTHDAY?- I HAVE HEARD THIS SO OFTEN)

34. Amanda, 25

As a petite girl I can attest to the fact that big dicks are overrated. There are rare exceptions of men with honed skills that make it less likely to be painful, but usually you occupy yourself with taking so many precautions (positions, depth, etc) that in the end you just sort of lose the mood.

Average is perfect

in my book.

35. Martha, 28

It mostly doesn’t matter, except in the rare parabolic extremes like the top and

bottom 1 percent.

36. Marie, 28

I’ve never experienced either extreme so as far as my life is concerned the answer is “it doesn’t matter.”

(UNTIL YOU MEET ME-MEH)

37. Laura, 18

I don’t think so.

38. Amy, 30

Really huge is scary, but because I like tall slender white guys I’ve never encountered that.

39. Stacey, 30

It doesn’t matter unless it’s small.

40. Jen, 27

As long as

I don’t have to ask if it’s in,

I am happy.

41. Penelope, 30

It doesn’t matter at all.

42. Cara, 23

I’ve never had sex so I don’t really know, I think it’s

not aesthetically pleasing if it’s smaller though

. But it does make oral sex way easier.

43. Megan, 25

I prefer them to be on the big side.

44. Angie, 33

In a perfect world, they’re all medium size.

45. Amanda, 26

When I think about the good sex I have had and the bad sex I’ve had, there’s no correlation between what size they were. So I’d say no.

46. Jane, 26

To me yes, but I know most women don’t care.

47. Liz, 26

Ultimately guys can (and should IMO) compensate in other ways if they’re lacking in size or stamina, etc.

48. Marissa, 26

No. Prime example: Joe used magnum condoms and Mathias didn’t, but Mathias was a better lover.

(SO HE WAS AVERAGE OF COURSE)

49. Sandy, 26

Limitedly, yes. There’s a range in which it doesn’t really matter at all, but there is such a thing as too big or

too small.

And girth is generally more relevant than length, but again, with a range.

50. Britney, 30

It doesn’t matter to me, we’re talking about a person I have to like very much already at the point I am seeing their dick.

The tally:

It doesn’t matter as long as it’s not too big or too small:21

It doesn’t matter at all:23

The bigger, the better: 6

[Jeep]

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[Jeep]

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[Jessie]

goodness.... do you think he can lend me some excess spare flesh....

[Jeep]

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[Jeep]

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[MrOkay]

Hi guys, cool forum.

Yeah I have a small one. About 4 inches fully erect on a good day. At worst 3.5 inches.

The thing with me was that I didn't realise I had a small penis until I was 37 years old. I had dated one girl for 21 years since I was 16. We married and then we divorced. So she had only known one guy and I had only known one chick, so neither of us had anyone to compare with.

So after my divorce I was back on the singles market, At 37 I met a woman who I really liked. I thought she liked me. I thought she was kind and considerate. We dated for about 2 weeks before having sex. Well, I got the shock of my life when she took one look at my penis and laughed. I asked what was wrong and she said 'what the **** is that?' She was pointing at my manhood. To cut a short story even shorter (no pun intended), she laughed at me in the bedroom. Put her clothes on and left. We never saw each other again.

I then started looking at the size of guys penises in porn movies. They were all about 4 inches bigger than mine. Then I guessed well yeah they have to be bigger than average. It still didn't sink in my penis was small. It was only after a second date with another woman, who also dumped me after laughing at my small **** that the news finally struck home.

I'm now 46 years old and haven't had sex with a woman in nine years. The last woman being my wife. I haven't dated anyone either in those nine years because what would be the point. When it comes to the sex, I know I will be humiliated.

That's my story. Yeah it sucks doesn't it. Luckily I am a strong person inside so it never gets me down. I still feel cheated in a way. What a bad deal I've been given. Oh well. It could be worse.

[flander]

Maybe he opens doors with it lol.

the TSA at the San Francisco airport apparently thought he was trying to smuggle something on an airplane sometime within the last year.

[Victimorthecrime]

@MrOkay - that sucks dude. I sometimes feel that everything I was told growing up was a complete lie. Size does matter // women do not like nice guys // civil servants serve themselves not the citizens.

[MrOkay]

@MrOkay - that sucks dude. I sometimes feel that everything I was told growing up was a complete lie. Size does matter // women do not like nice guys // civil servants serve themselves not the citizens.

Yeah, 'they' say size doesn't matter but it does.

As a man with a small one I am not confident having sex any more. And what makes things worse is that in those nine years I have been without sex I have had countless opportunities to have it. But I have either refused or ran away from it, because of the humiliation I'd feel - and I know any potential sex partner would be disappointed.

I'll give you two instances. About three years ago, I was working as a clerk in an office. An attractive brunette was really coming on to me a lot. She was about 30, a good 15 years younger than me. I'm not saying she was an angel, if she liked someone she'd tell them. One day she said, 'what do you think about friends with benefits?' I said, 'that's a cool idea'. And she said 'wanna be my friend with benefits'. Yeah, what me with my 3 incher? I couldn't see it, so I made my excuses and said I was married and didn't cheat. That's what having a small penis does to someone. Ha ha, I have thought about that woman every day for the past three years. I laugh about it, but what else can I do? I wasn't gonna take that risk of her laughing at me.

On another occasion I met a woman from work for coffee. Again she was attractive and had her own appartment. She told me she did and lived on her own. Somehow, we started talking about sex. I don't know how it happened but it did. It wasn't me who raised the subject that's for sure. And out of the blue she said, 'do you wanna come back to my place.' Look I am not saying it would have led to sex, but I wasn't gonna take that risk so I refused.

Those are just two instances where having a small one has badly affected my life. I have many many more stories but won't bore you.