How not to feel bitter?

[dvnJ22]

I think I'm becoming bitter, but I don't want to be. I know that cant expect a woman to want me, so why can't I just be happy and wait to die the way I am? I don't want to be angry to women, or men, but I am.

[malign]

But you seem to be okay with being angry at yourself? Maybe charity begins at home?

[Jessie]

the bitterness can really hurt... or even make you do things you later regret.

you musn't resent women (who have natural preferences/urges that to some extent are beyond their control) and equally you cannot be angry at men for enjoying their own sexuality.

They are only doing what you would do in their shoes.

And there is certainly no reason to dislike yourself over a feature you would love to change but simply cannot.

You may be right to hate those that humiliate and degrade others though.

there is a woman at my work who I would not piss on if she were on fire- due to hateful attitudes toward guys like us.

But thats because she has been cruelly mocking when she didnt need to be.

Preference is one thing but there is no need to insult and degrade.

[dvnJ22]

I hate it when people tell to just go for it, if I date I'm going t get cheated, humiliated, and degraded.... whats the pont? I know I'm pathetic, and worthless to women, I just need to find a cave to live in till I die. Sometimes I think I need have "I just don't give a shit" attitude. That's what my one friend said. He said "I'm a great guy and any girl would be lucky to have me" but I just can't do it.

[Jessie]

The thing is you just have to be selective- if you pick a loudmouth or a highly sexual girl they will reject you and tell their friends and that means the other girls cannot go out with you EVEN if they did like you because of social embarrassment.

So dont pick girls like that!!

Some girls are shy and private and reserved and not highly sexual.

So pick them for a romantic caring union. And then you could make someone happy.

Don't pick a stunner, or vivacious, talkative socialite or an uber 'modern' woman- maybe try speed dating?

[dvnJ22]

I've accepted reality, I just don't care, I don't care about myself anymore, my life, or my well being. Empty and nihilistic.... love does not exist, neither goodness or kindness. "the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" ill just have to suffer like Jesus fuckin Christ. Pain, humiliation, anger, frustration, tears, loneliness, betrayal is what awaits. nature's providence is beyond me and cruel, but only cruel because of the inferior human mind.

[Victimorthecrime]

I know where you are coming from dvnJ22 I worry I am becoming bitter too. I agree w everything Jesse said. Isnt it weird how something can make perfect sense & still not get thru to ya?

I would think a decent guy would bring a lot to the life of a woman even if he is not mr perfect body but you can't prove it by me.

The problem w relationships w women is either they workout or they don't, there is no grey area or wiggle room, and for me it don't workout; not gonna achieve that boyfriend status for long. Not that I am giving up; just saying.

[dvnJ22]

I am angry, in pain, I wish the world and 99.9 % of humans pain, our existence is futile. I am not a decent man, my monstrosity is laid bear, and open to see. I am in no delusion, I am sane and I am full aware of my weakness. I am of the same cloth of hitler, Stalin, bin laden, and the us government. My pain will overflow into society, "they will ask where has this come from?" And I will reply: "they who have put out the people’s eyes, reproach them of their blindness"

"Mortals, born of woman, are of few days and full of trouble."

[Wastedlife]

Yep, I'm very bitter with the world as well but I try to understand women. They want what they want just as I want what I want. I'm not going to settle for a women I'm not attracted to just because I'm lonely, and I'm sure women don't want to settle for someone who having sex with is not enjoyable for them because they cant feel our pathetic penis. Nature is the problem, it selects who is the superior male with out giving us the chance. You simply lose and get thrown away with the garbage with out ever having the chance to fight for it. This is why I believe in genetic modification, the faster we make nature and natural selection absolute with science the better.

[Notdoneyet]

Those of you who have made the leap and tried interacting with the opposite sex would

be better fit to find success if you changed your way of looking at your perceived

problems. Although I have yet to hear any complaints from the women I have met

since reentering the dating world, should I ever, I shall just mark it off as some sort of deficiency

possessed by the woman who is complaining.

This is the proper way to address things which you have no chance of changing.

[Victimorthecrime]

Yep, I'm very bitter with the world as well but I try to understand women. They want what they want just as I want what I want. I'm not going to settle for a women I'm not attracted to just because I'm lonely, and I'm sure women don't want to settle for someone who having sex with is not enjoyable for them because they cant feel our pathetic penis. Nature is the problem, it selects who is the superior male with out giving us the chance. You simply lose and get thrown away with the garbage with out ever having the chance to fight for it. This is why I believe in genetic modification, the faster we make nature and natural selection absolute with science the better.

[Victimorthecrime]

Powerful stuff Wasted. I don't follow what you are saying at the end about gender modification do you mean perfecting men becoming women surgically or pregnancy gender selection?

But regardless of that, I agree whole heartily that nature has fucked men royally. Fact is that even the ugliest women with zero brains & no social skills can get laid & pregnant anytime she wants. of course the taxpayer picks up the tab from there. Now in the state of nature very few males ever get to have sex only the Alphas & while human society has perverted that it still remains that a lot of guys are just plain ruled out from an early age. Women do not find me attractive, never have, never will. I am a small dick beta male loser weirdo sissy - that is how they see me. Now why bitch about this?? Because i am educated and the mind of an educated man wants the truth. What hurts most is how much I was lied to: get fit, earn money, develop social skills, be nice and you'll meet a woman that likes you. Epic FAIL

[Wastedlife]

Yes getting humiliated, laughed and possibly everyone in your circle of family/friends finding out you got 3-4 inch pathetic penis is worse then sitting on the computer and complain about it.

[dvnJ22]

Yeah exactly. Most women, not all, are hostile and cruel to guys like us. So I just avoid women. I what you're going to say " but how will you ever find the women that don't care?" 1% of the population is not good odds. So I'll sit at my computer, read, and play music instead of forcing ir or hoping for somthing that won't happen. I wish my relgion had the option to be a monk, or a celibate priest.

[Jessie]

oh come on... its not 1%!!!

look, you will know from my posts how I have witnessed cruel jibes from girls....

but this is not ALL women.

The last time I heard girls talk about this disrespectfully they were told off- not by a guy- but by another woman!

I reckon 50% care a lot and 25% care a bit and 25% don't care. ( I base this on life experience, forums and Herrings UK Talking Cock surveys)

Now I know 25% is a minority but its still millions of girls and if you go to some countries you could reverse those %!

So how do you find that 1 in 4? Avoid sexy dressers! Girls that are loud! Girls that talk about sex! The girls that talk about exes dicks!

Basically if you try 1 in 4 randomly you will find one that doesnt care too much.

If you carefully pre-select then 50% of the girls you date wont care.

See?

[Wastedlife]

I want smart, confident, outgoing sexy women who are wild in bed, but those women are not interested in my small warm...so I cant have what I want and there is nothing I can do to fix it, so I'm here complaining because that's all I got.

[Jessie]

and I want to be a world champion tennis player.... alas I go to work in a tie.

smart, sexy, confident, outgoing women can have their pick of men.

Being brutally honest, there is little reason for a girl like that to select a guy with smaller than average sex organ.

There may be, out of 1000 really 'sexy' girls, perhaps 1 or 2 who genuinely wouldnt mind but its unlikely any of us are going to meet them.

But if you sit around waiting for the 'lottery' you may be wasting time and life.

Instead find a girl who you find attractive and like but perhaps isnt 'conventionally' attractive, or is 'hot' in other ways.

I understand you want a modern sassy girl in a mini skirt- hell, they have their attractions, but this is the EXACT type that WILL reject and humiliate you thus perpetuating your misery.

You are loading the dice against you.

Im not saying find someone who you find out and out repulsive - just widen your parameters a bit.

After all you want a girl to overlook your 'missing inches', well then you might have to overlook something 'imperfect' in your partner- fairs fair...

[Jessie]

uh... and yeah ... avoid dating Farrah Abraham.... (just saw her airport comments.... 'shes a keeper!")

[CantGiveItAway]

If you did feel bitter towards men and women right now, could you try to seperate or put those feelings aside for a little while and try to lighten the intensity of those feelings just toward yourself?... I think being stuck in a certain mindset and reinforcing those kind of beliefs about things can really wear a person down, and can lead to a percieved reality that isnt really true for yourself as a person...

Plus, you could still date, and you dont have to have sex with anyone. It could still be fun and it might slowly help you better approach taking relationships further eventually. Putting a bunch of labels to a woman doesnt define the person she is. If you have a more favorable and likeable connection with yourself, I think it would be easier to recognize that in another and have her feel that towards you...

I dont think any of you are just sitting here complaining. It can be really healing getting stuff out and help process through things.

[dvnJ22]

I really don't think this is a perceived reality, if I had a normal penis my reality in this area would be better but because I came out a bad mix I am repulsive to women. I will die alone (unless my family is alive) and a virgin. I could always go to a whore but I think it defeats the purpose and is disgusting thing to do. either my future is bleak. I just have to not to let it break my spirit. I want to rise above it.

[Victimorthecrime]

I really appreciate everyone's positive, sincere & insightful comments. I especially like what CantGiveItAway said about getting stuff out & healing. I should try & find a therapeutic environment for that. Finding a good therapist ain't easy either but gonna try.

It's Sunday morning here, the sun is shining, I am gonna do what I can to make the best of it and invite all to the same. Peace.

One last thing, to those here that seem even more down than I am let me offer that sometimes you have to say fuck

'em all I am not a criminal I have as much right to be here as anyone else and I am going to love & accept myself

[Perseverance]

I hate it when people tell to just go for it, if I date I'm going t get cheated, humiliated, and degraded.... whats the pont? I know I'm pathetic, and worthless to women, I just need to find a cave to live in till I die. Sometimes I think I need have "I just don't give a shit" attitude. That's what my one friend said. He said "I'm a great guy and any girl would be lucky to have me" but I just can't do it.

I have a small dick and my girlfriend hasn't done any of that. She has a good job she works we hang out on the weekend and if we can find time alone we have sex. She seems to enjoy it even though I'm obsessed with perfection and I think I'm not fucking her perfectly. But even though I know shes been with probably plenty other guys shes still with me having sex with me. Making plans for the future and enjoying our time together. Don't be going out to bars and shit trying to meet women. Get get out there. I met mine in the city just walking around. Struck up a conversation and made a date for later on that night. I get I love you cards and alot of other thoughtful stuff from her. For a guy that has a little dick I have an awesome relationship. She treats me well. She's hot. She's smart. She's funny. And I really think more like her are out there. I remember her telling me one time "sex isn't the only part of this relationship" and shes right it's not. Honestly pussy is way too good to just give up on it. I never will. It's insane. Pussy is better than any food I've ever tasted any candy or beer. There's nothing better in my opinion than to stick your cock inside a chicks pussy. Especially someone you love. I can't see how you guys just give up. Don't quit. Keep on keeping on and hopefully find that one girl you can be happy with.

[dvnJ22]

I'm not just small, I am abnormally small, borderline micro, no woman wants that. I'm just a pest to women. And that's why I come here, I feel suicidal everyday. I don't have any joy, no goals, nothing. So coming here and getting it out postpones suicide.

[Jessie]

well then I glad you come here. I find it very cathartic- Im borderline micro too.

but you are not a pest to women (unless you stalk them!).

we all face rejection in our lives (well 99% of us anyway)

I truly understand why you feel so unacceptable- what with the media and female comments etc but their ARE women who will not see you as a pest.

Its a certainty.

Men and women on this site have reported acceptance and or success....

[Perseverance]

Dude the biggest thing you have to do is get yourself in a situation where you can feel accepted. You may get shit on a bunch of times but eventually it will come. The fact you want to kill yourself pisses me off because its a loss for all of us fighting to change the idea we are all no good to women. Which isn't true. Our worst enemy is the media and porn. These thoughts get drilled into womens and men's minds that only huge cocks can satisfy. The idea you can't in your own way sexually satisfy a female is ridiculous. Yea some may feel better than others but its not like you can't. Most chicks love guys who eat them out. That's huge for them. Good women are out there. Do I think they're harder to find. Kinda. But they're out there. You're here on this board and we can talk and help each other.