I have suicidal thoughts because of a small penis

[Resolute]

And getting what she lacks on the outside from the alpha male who lives two blocks over. Some of you people are so detached from reality that I really have to wonder if you're being disingenuous. Jesus christ.

1-why do you assume that every woman in the world will cheat if spouse has small penis?

2-why do you assume that every woman in the world wants an alpha male?

it is however my opinion (based on much experience and many observations) that a man should be an alpha male.

3-why do you assume that one must poossess a big penis to be an alpha male?

So what would you recommend non-alpha males do w regard to relationships w females? Not being argumentative, just curious. There are only so many options: 1) avoid women altogether 2) have a relationship but accept that she will cheat 3) attempt to become alpha or in some way neutralize your non-alpha traits 4) find a woman that the alphas don't care to penetrate as she is unattractive or handicapped in some way 5) something I didn't think of.

answer in order of importance:

option 3: becoming an alpha (you don't necessarily require a big penis to be an alpha).

option 5: find a woman who isn't into all this hype and shallowness (and believe me they exist).

option 2: if the 2 options above fail or are not satisfactory/acceptable to you,or you think they're not possible,then avoiding women altogether is probably the next best option.

also i would like to mention that it is possible to live a "bearable" life without any woman,but obviously requires will power,discipline and clear goals in life;having faith doesn't hurt either.

[Victimorthecrime]

Very thoughtful post Klingsor. Believe me when I say that rarely does a day pass w/o some thought of wishing it was all over.

I hear what you are saying about the hermit thing too, it is also known as "going ghost". It is a lifestyle being adopted more and more by the non-high value men in our society where outside of your job you know almost no one. I am battling that myself. I live alone, no family, few friends.

But I have not completely given up. I am employed, workout some, take vitamins, try to stay positive. Also I love music esp Garcia, Phish, etc. that keeps me going.

One positive and somewhat ironic note, as you get older you are less interested in sex and a women at work have been chatty w me I think they mistake aloofness for confidence lol.

Anyway, I really do wish everyone the very best that life can offer and good luck because that really does matter.

[dvnJ22]

Every person has different needs and wants; there are different things that make sex meaningful to different people. As far as loving someone for who they are inside, I feel that way as well. Are some other women different? I'm sure some are, but I hope you will not close yourself off to all of the possibilities.

There's this one amature porn I saw where the girl is just screaming in pleasure, and the guy is huge. You can see him in her, and it's stretching her out. I've had that in my head for while, it's intrusive, and it makes me feel inadequate, and depressed

I feel it literally traumatized me. I felt like crying. Cause I know I could never satisfy a woman like that, and I could never be please with my sex life cause my dick wasn't that big, and could never do that. So you can't tell me that sex is meaningful to different people type stuff. That doesn't make sense

[Jessie]

An earnest clip= some good and points

[Jessie]

I can't remember if I posted this before.

But you will all be relived to know she thinks 11inches is too big.

[Jessie]

This is not about size but it does a give an insight into how the western womens mind works now

[Victimorthecrime]

Classy gals.

[Guest Klingsor]

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[Jessie]

On Thursday one of my bosses took our team to lunch in London.

It was going fine- lots of differing conversations until the subject turned to Rolf Harris (recently jailed for child abuse).

A guy said he read that one of Rolf's victims accused him of having a very small penis.

Several opined this may have been a factor in him preferring children sexually (secretly I took great offence to this obviously).

Then one guy said (in mock earnestness) "surely not - after all its the motion on the ocean" when several girls (perhaps a little tipsy) angry contradicted him saying there is no motion if you cannot feel it!

All of a sudden I couldn't finish my pudding - I felt physically sick - I just about held it together and slipped off when they were planning to visit a pub. We had the afternoon off luckily.

So I took the Friday off massively depressed and spent 15 hours searching for clips on the subject- I guess its my way of coping when this shit happens.

I know it was only maybe 2 mins out of 3 hours of conversation but it just makes me want to jump off a building.

[Jessie]

I was having a conversation about 'size in the media' with a fellow poster only last week.

She thought there wasnt much size references in the media- I felt they were everywhere….

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I was having a conversation about 'size in the media' with a fellow poster only last week.

She thought there wasnt much size references in the media- I felt they were everywhere….

Whether you have a small one or not, whether it bothers you or not, whether you watch Jessies clips or not I've got to agree with Jessie on this point. The media bombards everyone with large vrs small constantly.

I've mentioned these before in a post. Look at the old Godzilla remake (1998). Right on the front of the DVD cover at the bottom it says "Size Does Matter". That's on every DVD made back then. Kids, moms, sisters everyone has seen and absorbed that.

EDIT: and I'll add I remember seeing billboards for the movie with that same statement. Probably two or three foot letters.

Want a real good time? Pick up the movie Bedazzled starring Brendan Fraser and Elizabeth Hurley. It's about a guy who signs a pact with the devil to win back his girlfriend. Of course everything he wishes to be backfires on him. (can't win out with the devil or a genie, right?)

In one of the scenarios presented he wishes to be a tall skinny pro basketball player so's he can proudly show off his huge endowment to his girl. But it backfires when he drops trou and has a small penis instead of being well hung. Of course his girl takes one look, gasps and bows out of the evenings date.

Anyone seen the Hardees commercials where they exclaim 'Size Matters' and goes on to talk about their huge new hamburger?

It's everywhere all around us. If a person is paying even the slightest attention you can note two or three references a day.

It gets real old real quick.

[Victimorthecrime]

And here's a further part of it - anything that is not huge is small. There is never any talk of average just big or tiny.

[u.r.what.u.is]

I've seen "Size does matter" used in advertising at a family restaurant, complete with the picture of a young woman gawking at a huge hamburger. Stupid as hell, something I loathe even now that I have effectively beaten my own SPS.

Victim, i agree. The close to average guys are those like me who actually have everything they need but might still suffer from SPS as a psychological thing. I thought for many years that being between 5 and 6 inches long when erect was so tiny that I had no right to even be in the game of pursuing women.

While size does matter to women, it is not "the bigger, the better". I think the average woman prefers the average penis. But big is always given respect in society, and small is always mocked. I always assumed I was in the mocked group.

I still hate when I hear small penises being laughed at, even if I feel personally secure now. I still remember how I used to feel when I thought I was in the lowest 5-10 percentile. The guys who are indeed small have to suffer heavily in silence.

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I've seen "Size does matter" used in advertising at a family restaurant, complete with the picture of a young woman gawking at a huge hamburger. Stupid as hell, something I loathe even now that I have effectively beaten my own SPS.

Victim, i agree. The close to average guys are those like me who actually have everything they need but might still suffer from SPS as a psychological thing. I thought for many years that being between 5 and 6 inches long when erect was so tiny that I had no right to even be in the game of pursuing women.

While size does matter to women, it is not "the bigger, the better". I think the average woman prefers the average penis. But big is always given respect in society, and small is always mocked. I always assumed I was in the mocked group.

I still hate when I hear small penises being laughed at, even if I feel personally secure now. I still remember how I used to feel when I thought I was in the lowest 5-10 percentile. The guys who are indeed small have to suffer heavily in silence.

Gold.

But breaking free of 30 years of SPS mindset and blaming your penis size is hard to do. It's a struggle.

U.R., I envy you.

[Resolute]

Whether you have a small one or not, whether it bothers you or not, whether you watch Jessies clips or not I've got to agree with Jessie on this point. The media bombards everyone with large vrs small constantly.

I've mentioned these before in a post. Look at the old Godzilla remake (1998). Right on the front of the DVD cover at the bottom it says "Size Does Matter". That's on every DVD made back then. Kids, moms, sisters everyone has seen and absorbed that.

EDIT: and I'll add I remember seeing billboards for the movie with that same statement. Probably two or three foot letters.

Want a real good time? Pick up the movie Bedazzled starring Brendan Fraser and Elizabeth Hurley. It's about a guy who signs a pact with the devil to win back his girlfriend. Of course everything he wishes to be backfires on him. (can't win out with the devil or a genie, right?)

In one of the scenarios presented he wishes to be a tall skinny pro basketball player so's he can proudly show off his huge endowment to his girl. But it backfires when he drops trou and has a small penis instead of being well hung. Of course his girl takes one look, gasps and bows out of the evenings date.

Anyone seen the Hardees commercials where they exclaim 'Size Matters' and goes on to talk about their huge new hamburger?

It's everywhere all around us. If a person is paying even the slightest attention you can note two or three references a day.

It gets real old real quick.

And here's a further part of it - anything that is not huge is small. There is never any talk of average just big or tiny.

I've seen "Size does matter" used in advertising at a family restaurant, complete with the picture of a young woman gawking at a huge hamburger. Stupid as hell, something I loathe even now that I have effectively beaten my own SPS.

Victim, i agree. The close to average guys are those like me who actually have everything they need but might still suffer from SPS as a psychological thing. I thought for many years that being between 5 and 6 inches long when erect was so tiny that I had no right to even be in the game of pursuing women.

While size does matter to women, it is not "the bigger, the better". I think the average woman prefers the average penis. But big is always given respect in society, and small is always mocked. I always assumed I was in the mocked group.

I still hate when I hear small penises being laughed at, even if I feel personally secure now. I still remember how I used to feel when I thought I was in the lowest 5-10 percentile. The guys who are indeed small have to suffer heavily in silence.

while i agree that the "size matters" phrase could be inappropriate and insensitive,they probably keep using it because it's catchy more than anything;i.e i doubt they're actually referring to penis size.

by the way retrojohn,i was following your story and i'm really curious as to what happened;you haven't given any updates in a while.feel free to not answer if it's too personal etc..i do however hope things are gowing well for you and your wife.

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Resolute, You might be right in that they're not referring directly to a penis, but I think the innuendo is still there. Like the ad where U.R. said a (pretty) young woman is gawking (fawning) over a huge hamburger with the phrase prominently displayed. Mentally every idiot is elbowing each other in the ribs and thinking 'Yeah, I know what they're REALLY talking about.'

Sex sells, it would seem large sex sells even better.

EDIT: Didn't know much of anyone was following that thread. Not much to update but I'll do a quick post for you and anyone else not completely sick of it.

[u.r.what.u.is]

Gold.

But breaking free of 30 years of SPS mindset and blaming your penis size is hard to do. It's a struggle.

U.R., I envy you.

Thanks. For me it was always self inflicted wounds. I have never suffered the pain of flat-out rejection because of penis size. I had one sexual partner for years who never had another man and who didn't like porn so I figured I dodged a bullet.

Then I read on forums like this one that the average penis is 5 or 6 inches long, blah blah, and I felt some hope but remained skeptical. The breakthrough for me came in the form of two women with a lot of sexual experience who both told me that sex with me was excellent - even as good as they ever had. Only then could I finally bid SPS a permanent farewell.

If I had been rejected instead of praised I would have been sent right back to the SPS shithole.

[Resolute]

There's this one amature porn I saw where the girl is just screaming in pleasure, and the guy is huge. You can see him in her, and it's stretching her out. I've had that in my head for while, it's intrusive, and it makes me feel inadequate, and depressed

I feel it literally traumatized me. I felt like crying. Cause I know I could never satisfy a woman like that, and I could never be please with my sex life cause my dick wasn't that big, and could never do that. So you can't tell me that sex is meaningful to different people type stuff. That doesn't make sense

while i'm firmly against all porn (and any such filth),unfortunately i have watched my fair share in the past,and i've seen quite alot of smaller penises (not just in amateur porn) and women seeming to really enjoy them.someone might reply that they could be faking it,i say the women enjoying the big ones could be faking it too.and i've also seen women with small vaginas being stretched by smaller guys.

the bottom line,there is no one size fits all or pleases all.and while a bigger penis may be more desirable,i strongly believe that there's someone (or many) for everyone.

[Victimorthecrime]

while i'm firmly against all porn (and any such filth),unfortunately i have watched my fair share in the past,and i've seen quite alot of smaller penises (not just in amateur porn) and women seeming to really enjoy them.someone might reply that they could be faking it,i say the women enjoying the big ones could be faking it too.and i've also seen women with small vaginas being stretched by smaller guys.

the bottom line,there is no one size fits all or pleases all.and while a bigger penis may be more desirable,i strongly believe that there's someone (or many) for everyone.

[Victimorthecrime]

And to further support your point I have seen porn where a large one is clearly causing pain for the woman. One example is Shane Diesel. His partners are usually crying out in agony not pleasure.

[dvnJ22]

unfortunately i have watched my fair share in the past,and i've seen quite alot of smaller penises (not just in amateur porn) and women seeming to really enjoy them.someone might reply that they could be faking it,i say the women enjoying the big ones could be faking it too.and i've also seen women with small vaginas being stretched by smaller guys.

:/

I've never seen that, idk.

[IrmaJean]

I feel it literally traumatized me. I felt like crying. Cause I know I could never satisfy a woman like that' date=' and I could never be please with my sex life cause my dick wasn't that big, and could never do that. So you can't tell me that sex is meaningful to different people type stuff. That doesn't make sense[/quote']

I think that we each have our own worldview and way of looking at things and it can be easy to assume that others feel the same way, when they may not. Being open to other thoughts requires laying down one's own beliefs (which may well run very deep) at least momentarily and stretching the mind to allow for the possibility that another person might see things completely differently. It's not easy; I've caught myself thinking the world through my personal lens too at times, but people really are different and unique.

Possibly some women might not need or even want what you described from this clip or other aspects of being intimate might have much deeper meaning and importance to them. Me, for example...I view (and I respect others' possibly very different views) the sex act itself as an expression of love and care and a means of connecting and sharing self physically, emotionally, and spiritually with another. This is something that I respect deeply and I would also deeply respect that the person I was with was openly sharing their vulnerability with me. The symbolic meaning of that is what would make sex meaningful to me. Not how a body part felt...My need is all in holding, being treated very gently; the other stuff is gravy. It also may depend on what people are hoping for. Some may want a long term, caring relationship and others may be seeking sex for very different reasons. The point being, how can you already know you can't satisfy a woman when you don't know what her needs and feelings are?

Why do you watch these videos, dvn, if they hurt you?

[CNL]

I've had similar experiences with porn vidoes and I continue to watch them because some instinct of defiance (and stupidity) compels to me to. In a way I use it as a filter for all of my mental coping mechanisms and rationalizations; what progress have I really made if one porn video or unanticipated comment can completely break me down? The proof of true progress would to me be the ability to watch and hear these things and not feel shattered afterward.

[Jessie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BehKgSvZnGE

this video has over 133,000 views.

Im not sure if its taking the pee or is poignant….

[dvnJ22]

Well I don't watch porn like that anymore. I was just making a point.