Around what size does it really become an issue in a relationship?

[DatDude90]

4.75" erect length (non bone-pressed, I assume?) isn't so very uncommon for white North Americans - at least not according to reliable published statistics into penis size. And it isn't massively below average either.

However girth is likely more important than length, as I've come to believe.

Which penis is the average girl going to find more stimulating? 4.75" x 5.5" girth? Or 7" x 4" girth...? (It seems pretty obvious, when you think about it, IMO.)

I have also heard women say girth is more important. You would think I wouldn't worry about my size, I don't know its exact measurement, but I measure a bit shy of 6 inches circumference. Along with a length of roughly 5 inches, its basically the same as the width of a standard DVD case.

I honestly envy Perseverance for being able to basically say "fuck it" and just bang away. Because I can't seem to get myself right mentally. I just end up reading something on another forum of some kind, that has women saying how 5 inches or less is small, or even anything less than 6 1/2 to 7 is small. I end up hitting rock bottom all over again.

To you guys that have been dealt a smaller size than me, I know you must think "Oh boo boo, you're fine, stop bitching and go get laid." I wish it was that simple. But as someone posted before, anyone of any size on the lower half of the ruler can suffer from SPS.

[Perseverance]

I have also heard women say girth is more important. You would think I wouldn't worry about my size, I don't know its exact measurement, but I measure a bit shy of 6 inches circumference. Along with a length of roughly 5 inches, its basically the same as the width of a standard DVD case.

I honestly envy Perseverance for being able to basically say "fuck it" and just bang away. Because I can't seem to get myself right mentally. I just end up reading something on another forum of some kind, that has women saying how 5 inches or less is small, or even anything less than 6 1/2 to 7 is small. I end up hitting rock bottom all over again.

To you guys that have been dealt a smaller size than me, I know you must think "Oh boo boo, you're fine, stop bitching and go get laid." I wish it was that simple. But as someone posted before, anyone of any size on the lower half of the ruler can suffer from SPS.

Compared to all of the people I know I was always the crazy one. In that I'd jump the highest jump with my bike, when I played football I'd call plays on defense and tell my teammates to try and put someone in the hospital on the next play, last minute fly across the US for the weekend, always drink too much... I go all out on extremes. So for me to tuck my tail between my legs I just can't do it.

I'm gonna get as hard as I get and try to freak a chick out. Eat pussy, fuck her as hard as I can. Bring toys in bed. Lick ass... Have sex in public.

But with all that my dick size still hurts me. Haunts me.

But with all the chaos that is my life I can also step back and be humbled by just thinking of the universe. Things so much bigger than me. Add a lil weed and really go deep. Seems to really help me grow out of this shit way of thinking.

And as I said before. I'm tired of the stress. I wish I was back In highschool to do it all over again. There's a few girls I regret not banging or talking to because I was scared.

I had a girl one time I crushed on that was like "I bet it's small" I side stepped that. Lol.

Now I would be like "scared you might like it"

Cause fuck it. You're guaranteed to die and that's pretty shitty. I don't want to add anymore regrets to clutter my deathbed.

So I just think if you're smaller than me, don't give up. Try your best to figure it out. You CAN find a woman. If it's competing with other men like I do you're going to have to let it go.

I don't blame you guys for being so dark. I'm guilty of it as well.

I would give Psilocybin, ayahuasca, LSD a shot if you can access it. Use your best judgement if you think you're mentally capable of handling it.

Some people need meds but I feel like people can also benefit from those drugs as well.

I'd really love to know one day that no one posts on these boards anymore.

[Perseverance]

Btw before I get flamed I'm not a drug addict lol. I believe in balance and moderation. Some times I get thrown off by I try my best to maintain it. There's all different things you can do. I always say exercise is extremely important to feel better. Keeps you off the computer and around more positive people.

[Resolute]

I would give Psilocybin, ayahuasca, LSD a shot if you can access it. Use your best judgement if you think you're mentally capable of handling it.

Some people need meds but I feel like people can also benefit from those drugs as well.

really man? "use your best judgement"? "if you think you can handle it"? what if someone thinks he can handle heroin,crack,cocaine,ecstasy,morphine.....?

i'm not even gonna comment on the using toys,licking ass,and having sex in public part.

[Victimorthecrime]

Btw before I get flamed I'm not a drug addict lol. I believe in balance and moderation. Some times I get thrown off by I try my best to maintain it. There's all different things you can do. I always say exercise is extremely important to feel better. Keeps you off the computer and around more positive people.

[Perseverance]

really man? "use your best judgement"? "if you think you can handle it"? what if someone thinks he can handle heroin,crack,cocaine,ecstasy,morphine.....?

i'm not even gonna comment on the using toys,licking ass,and having sex in public part.

Well those drugs you've listed are potentially dangerous. I haven't listed any drug that can kill you. Some use psychedelics as a normal part of their culture. Taboo now, but it's not going to be in the future.

And boo hoo for you if you're not down with licking ass. Try this, wake up in the morning and the first thing you do is lick a chicks ass. It will change your whole day.

[Victimorthecrime]

I totally agree w this post and the one above. I can't handle drugs at my age, a few beers and I am fine. Working out is vital for me to not lose it.

I would love to see an escort but I don't have the $$

[Victimorthecrime]

Some people who can't find any pleasure of their own find it in ruining it for others.

[Resolute]

Well those drugs you've listed are potentially dangerous. I haven't listed any drug that can kill you. Some use psychedelics as a normal part of their culture. Taboo now, but it's not going to be in the future.

And boo hoo for you if you're not down with licking ass. Try this, wake up in the morning and the first thing you do is lick a chicks ass. It will change your whole day.

no kidding.

[DatDude90]

Btw before I get flamed I'm not a drug addict lol. I believe in balance and moderation. Some times I get thrown off by I try my best to maintain it. There's all different things you can do. I always say exercise is extremely important to feel better. Keeps you off the computer and around more positive people.

I personally don't like altering my state of mind, I've smoked several times and tried to get myself to enjoy it, but even that is too much for me. The high I get from smoking is overwhelming for me, so I just exercise. Whether it be basketball or boxing, its a nice escape, even if its only for hours at a time.

[Resolute]

Some people who can't find any pleasure of their own find it in ruining it for others.

i'm sorry if my position against licking ass offended you;by all means,lick away.

[Perseverance]

I personally don't like altering my state of mind, I've smoked several times and tried to get myself to enjoy it, but even that is too much for me. The high I get from smoking is overwhelming for me, so I just exercise. Whether it be basketball or boxing, its a nice escape, even if its only for hours at a time.

Yea it just isn't for some people. I believe in eating well, exercising and all that. Big time. Definitely have to get out in the sun. Coming home and putting the feet up after a long day and lighting up once as a while works for me. Takes my stress away and that's important too.

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[Victimorthecrime]

i'm sorry if my position against licking ass offended you;by all means,lick away.

[Victimorthecrime]

No offense taken.

[DatDude90]

I unexpectedly discovered during that pitifully brief time I was with someone that it was so much better than pornography because my mind had access to input from all my senses, not only my sight. But out of everything - eyes, mouth, skin, ears, nose - I found the body aromas and odors of another human being unforgettably intoxicating, even those we are supposed to consider as repulsive. Olfactory bliss. I think this fact alone is what allowed me to achieve an erection during actual sex even despite the years and years of masturbatory desensitization.

Well you're a better man than me. My first (and only) attempt at sex, I couldn't get it up if I overdosed on viagra. I couldn't overcome the desensitization of consistent masturbation to porn. Now I know, if I ever get the balls to unveil my penis to another women, I will make sure to lay off the porn and meat shakin for at least 2 or 3 weeks before.

[mts]

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[Victimorthecrime]

If you're 1. confident, 2. have a positive outlook, 3. got good company, psychadelic drugs can be a lot of fun.

1,2,3 can be like numbers in one of those jackpot machines, sometimes though...

[Victimorthecrime]

Agree but out of compassion for newbies I would advise the first time you are in a safe place w just a few people you know and trust. Not recommending it, just if anyone is determined to try psychedelics. Drink water!

[u.r.what.u.is]

if I ever get the balls to unveil my penis to another women, I will make sure to lay off the porn and meat shakin for at least 2 or 3 weeks before.

Ironically, I'm convinced that porn actors avoid masturbation so they can do their job.

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[DatDude90]

Porn definitely affected my performance. For one thing, it took an unreasonable amount of foreplay (cunnilingus) for me to get hard. But pussy eating only goes so far because they want to be penetrated.

So when we had actual intercourse, I would have to pause periodically, pull out, and restimulate with my hand to maintain an erection. My dick just didn't respond as well to a pussy because 1) I'd never had it 2) I was accustomed to my hand and desensitized. Otherwise, I found that I literally had to fuck like a rabbit or dog (fast as opposed to rhythmic) to mimic jacking off so I could be stimulated to stay hard. One girl liked this, the other two didn't. And I never really did have one of those rock hard, steel rod hard ons like I got when masturbating to porn which put my actual erection somewhere between 4 and 4.25", not the theoretically achievable 4.5-4.75".

When you're talking fractions of an inch at the bottom of the hill I guess it really doesn't matter though.

Just as an added note to the pace or technique I mentioned - a genuinely small dick is completely inadequate for that deep, long, rhythmic penetration I've heard women say results in orgasm. The real "motion of the ocean", not a lapping mud puddle.

Something else I remember is that although my first two gf's were petite, my third one was on the chubby side and she had a good caboose on her. I remember looking down the first time we had sex and really realizing, visualizing for the first time how small and pathetic I looked going into her compared with what I'd seen on the screen. I thought a big one would just look so much more satisfying compared to this little sausage and immediately I lost all arousal. It was really the beginning of the end for me at that moment. From then on I could only get aroused by thinking or seeing her getting fucked by a big one.

Sigh...

Same thing happened to me, the only chance I had of getting anything close to an erection was to thrust with a speed and rythm that mimicked masturbation. I also had to pull out and stimulate myself several times, and like you said, going down on them can only do so much, eventually, women want to feel that penetration. Regardless of whether or not they can orgasm from penetration, they still want to feel it.

[DatDude90]

I know, I'm one of them. I still have problems with this now. I cannot have sex with condoms not that I even think it's a good idea anyway. It can take some men over a year to get over this. It can take a lot longer then the recommended 90 days which get's pushed around.

I'm one of those guys as well, I may also have somewhat of a porn addiction because I watch it just to watch it. But I think its more to do with gaining the sensitivity back in the penis more so than it is the mental aspect of it. Although I've only been with one girl, and I wasn't completely hard, I'm sure there are very few vaginas in the world, no matter how tight, that compare to the tight grip of my hands. So I think it comes down to gaining that sensitivity so your are able to get stimulated by a not as firm grip.

[Guest Klingsor]

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