New around here and hating how world shames and hurts us

[Victimorthecrime]

Why do people keep saying it's genetic? My dad was huge, but both of his sons are small and one of them is considering

"The coward's way Out" Whoever came up with that cliché wasn't aware of sps.

If small penis is not genetic then what do you see as the cause?

[someone555]

If small penis is not genetic then what do you see as the cause?

It is genetic, but there are still too many genes big and small circulating

[Senior penor]

It probably IS genetic - I think you are overlooking the fact that our genetics come from more people than just our parents ... you have our grandparents, our great grandparents and so on, every time it's two people with completely different genetics coming together and passing down those gene's.

Ever thought that just maybe ... mother could be smaller than average and that could be where it came from ?

[nytaiji]

I have to disagree a little with you Senior. Our genes come from our parents, that's it. But I know what your point is and you are right. For the same reason 2 dark haired parents can have a blonde haired baby....if both parents have the recessive gene for blonde hair, and they both pass that recessive gene, then the kid will be blonde.

[woteva]

i know it's easier said than done, but don't pay too much attention to such comments mat; if they're genuine and indeed written by women not men, then they're certainly just mean feminist sluts, period. no remotely decent woman (or person) would ever say (or even think) such things about others.

I agree no one decent would ever say something like that directly to another human being, but I do think the overwhelming majority of people think that way. Obviously, those comments were written with malicious intent, and in that way they're not genuine, but the sentiment is there. The simple truth is, given the choice, the vast majority of women in this world would prefer a normal-to-big penis, and no man wants to have a small one. That makes disdain for small penises universal. It's why SPS exists. If penis size didn't matter SPS would never have evolved as a condition.

[woteva]

You are just shaming yourself by reading this crap ...

I was the same way until I had a eureka moment ... now I don't give a f**k

What lead to your "emancipation"?

[woteva]

If enough people speak up, then that kind of ridicule will also be seen as sick. The situation is awful, but I'm hopeful for the future.

There is no hope for the future. Old patriarchal societies protected (intentionally or not, I'm not sure) men from this shame and embarrassment. Think of Ancient Rome or Greece where all depictions of the penis in sculpture, painting etc. were always in line with the notion of modesty and humility. I can't think of one famous old art work where the subject has a big penis. Today it's different. We've moved away from the patriarchal structures, although not completely, and as a result men are exposed to the same denigrations and humiliations to which women have been exposed for thousands of years. For us SPS men it's a nightmare. In pop culture you never see a small penis unless it's in a compromising context (humiliation) and all the guys out there promoting the notion of "being comfortable in your own skin" just happen (cough cough) to have big penises. Think of Jason Segel and the spate of nude scenes he's had in his recent films. On top of that, thanks to the internet, there is so much more pornography out there today than ever before. Women, from the youngest age, are exposed only to big penises and naturally come to the conclusion that anything below "porn" size is small. By the time they figure out (some never do) that those porn penises are above average they've probably ridiculed, laughed at, humiliated, talked down to and generally gossiped about small penis guys they've encountered. That's where we come in - unfortunately.

[Guest Klingsor]

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[modestman]

What lead to your "emancipation"?

I don't know if I count as "emancipated," but I have been told NOT to discuss my experiences on this forum. I deleted all of my old posts.

There is no hope for the future.

I didn't mean that small penises would become more desirable or anything like that. I simply meant that, in Western culture, making fun of small penises will eventually be seen as sick and sadistic.

In the longer term, as medical science advances, men with small or damaged penises will be able to replace them with larger, lab-grown ones. There was an article about this posted recently on the forum.

Think of Ancient Rome or Greece where all depictions of the penis in sculpture, painting etc. were always in line with the notion of modesty and humility. I can't think of one famous old art work where the subject has a big penis.

The ancient Greeks saw penises as ugly, and they minimized their size in their artwork. Large penises were seen as uncouth, unsophisticated, even disgusting. The world looked very different 3,000 years ago.

Today it's different. We've moved away from the patriarchal structures, although not completely, and as a result men are exposed to the same denigrations and humiliations to which women have been exposed for thousands of years. For us SPS men it's a nightmare. In pop culture you never see a small penis unless it's in a compromising context (humiliation) and all the guys out there promoting the notion of "being comfortable in your own skin" just happen (cough cough) to have big penises. Think of Jason Segel and the spate of nude scenes he's had in his recent films. On top of that, thanks to the internet, there is so much more pornography out there today than ever before. Women, from the youngest age, are exposed only to big penises and naturally come to the conclusion that anything below "porn" size is small. By the time they figure out (some never do) that those porn penises are above average they've probably ridiculed, laughed at, humiliated, talked down to and generally gossiped about small penis guys they've encountered. That's where we come in - unfortunately.

Yes, all so very true.

[Mat]

I agree with most of your replies guys, and thank you for replying and commenting, I am really shocked with taht youtube vid on Kimmels, just wow...

Well sometimes I think either lab-grown dicks will save us, or we get lucky to procreate with some women who dont mind or we will simply die out... because either small dick or insecure losers dont attract women for long heh. Unless you plan on using condok with a hole and on purpose impregnating the girl and force to have a son or daughter.

Also about genetics, sometimes it is passed from mother side only or its recessive gene of grand grand grand father frm one of sides that is in the work heh... guess we won lottery... NOT.

[Mat]

Also... speaking of superficial...

Ok my new BF is perfect in every other way and I have no intention of leaving him because of this.

We have recently just had sex after waiting 12 weeks, and sex was still good, but I was rather disappointed in the size of his penis, it was 5 inches long and not that thick, about 2 fingers thick (women fingers).

We were messing around before and there wasn't alot to play with, but when we had sex it was great, I could feel him in me, and it didn't hurt as previous bf did in the past.

I know its so shallow to be bothered of this as everything else was great, why does it bother me though?? Having a bigger penis i suppose would be perfect but fact is he doesnt and I will need to get over it.

Wow... so guy is _NORMAL_ sized with 5 inches and assming two woman fingers is around 1.3 inch - 1.5 inch that would gice close to 4.3-4.6 inches girth and she is yet complaining.... sometimes I wonder

[Mat]

Are these women trolls? or just... really really shallow and honest?

http://www.babygaga.com/t-2176616/small-penis-disappointment.html?page=5

[Jessie]

A&J. ♥1 child; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania5613 posts

12th Jun '12

just skimming through this and cracking up. is the average size really 5 inches? I thought it was like 7 inches. whoops.

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Karren1 child; Liverpool, United Kingdom378 posts

12th Jun '12

Haha, I can always rely on Baby Gaga for when im bored, funny thread!

Ive had some small ones in my time, but the one shown here on the wikipedia is just horriffic

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Micropenis

I didnt realise that having a small penis can actually be a MEDICAL condition, damn, it would suck like hell to be a guy with a small dick.

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Momma R2 kids; Washington3631 posts

12th Jun '12

Nexxxxxt. You can't do anything with a micro penis.

user banned2 kids; North Carolina7623 posts

21st Apr '12

I remember daten a guy that had a small peen, I hated having sex with him, like hated because I laughed on the inside at how small he was. I can't remember exactly how small he was, probably about the size that you mentioned in the OP but my best friend has kids by him and they don't date anymore but when they were daten and she'd tell me about them having sex, I just giggled but she knows it's small too.

MommyOfTheSea1 child; San Diego, California369 posts

21st Apr '12

I'm sorry but 4-5 inches would probably be a deal breaker with me. I'd end up having sex with someone else down the line just to make up for it. No wonder he's so sweet...haha :twisted:

[Jessie]

They are just normal women being honest.

The truth is.. being small is a terrible disability that devastates lives.

I cannot recall having a 'happy day' for a long long time.

Its an incurable condition that means the best years of your life are spent in isolation and self loathing, or enduring continuous rejection, ridicule or revulsion.

Its a life devoid of dignity, intimacy or hope.

[Resolute]

They are just normal women being honest.

The truth is.. being small is a terrible disability that devastates lives.

I cannot recall having a 'happy day' for a long long time.

Its an incurable condition that means the best years of your life are spent in isolation and self loathing, or enduring continuous rejection, ridicule or revulsion.

Its a life devoid of dignity, intimacy or hope.

i'd just change that to: "what are supposed to be the best years of one's life"..., and i don't just mean when it comes to penis size.

[Guest Klingsor]

Jessie,

Very poignantly put. I think of myself as a spectator in life in all aspects. Like a prisoner looking through the window of a prison cell at the drama of normal life unfolding outside of him, the people neither caring about nor noticing him, except for the brief, infrequent moments when they are forcibly reminded of his situation when they have to walk past his prison. Then they say a few pious, sage words about how shitty life is (if they are the type that feels guilt or a sense of injustice, or just laugh if they are like the majority of people) and quickly put this unpleasant reminder out of their heads and go on living life and earnestly avoid any stimulant that might force their mind to think about the prisoner's circumstances again.

[nytaiji]

"Its a life devoid of dignity..."

So true.

If I didn't feel hate, I wouldn't feel anything.

[someone555]

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1qnbsz/ladies_of_reddit_how_small_was_the_smallest_erect/

a Q&A asking ladies about their smallest experiences and how they went. you may enjoy this read, as over half of them have positive results

[Mat]

I totaly agree with all of you guys, you all have a point, it is something that we cant do about and that even if we have such small penises becuse what disease? hormone imbalance? genetic stuff? randomness even if then we are here if we inherit this, and be able to reproduce but today's stigma, gender equality and all the media hate on bad traits i.e small penis, ugliness, baldness etc puts these apparenly "bad traits" as unaccpetable and best to put aside on shelf and be forgotten about. Simply put just let these people die in peace and loneliness for the better fot the world.

Really sad... really sad

[Mat]

I'm a woman in my 20s, for reference. My roommmate's boyfriend set me up with one of his friends and we went on a few dates. I really liked him and started to wonder why he never invited me to his place or tried to go home with me at the end of the night. Eventually I got him to stay the night a couple times but whenever I came onto him he didn't seem like he wanted sex, so we just cuddled. Finally, I was about to leave the country and it was our last night hanging out. We were both pretty drunk and I got his pants off and saw that his dick was slightly shorter than a chapstick tube and thinner than my pinky finger. I tried to work with it, but he said he wasn't going to be able to get it up, apologized profusely, said he has trouble getting it up because he's so self-conscious. This was a 32 year old man essentially in tears telling me this always happens, I felt so bad. I didn't really mind and would have still slept with him if he didn't seem so traumatized. The next morning we got breakfast like nothing happened and went to art museums all day before I had to leave in the evening to catch a plane, it was an awesome day. He was sweet and I wish I could have stayed and helped him become more comfortable with himself. I will never throw around small dick insults ever again after seeing how sad he was, it was awful

At least she has some compassion... Wish more people like her were in this world.

[IrmaJean]

They are just normal women being honest.

I wonder if your mind has "normalized" disrespect and cruelty from women? Again, this kind of talk makes my stomach turn. It would be a "deal breaker" for me, I would not choose to be friends with anyone who talked about other human beings as if they were objects and who disrespected the vulnerability of another person.

[nytaiji]

I don't think his brain normalized it. I think it's society that has normalized it. Your view, irmajean, is commendable. However, I would say that you are in the minority. Human beings can be very cruel.

[Victimorthecrime]

Human beings can be very cruel.

Hence the expression "take it for what it is worth". In a cruel world a man must be his own best friend if he hopes to survive. It is important to not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I am just trying to be realistic. For example right now I am trying to focus on fitness, saving money, career skills, and non sexual relationships. I do my best and forget the rest.

[Jessie]

I wonder if your mind has "normalized" disrespect and cruelty from women? Again, this kind of talk makes my stomach turn. It would be a "deal breaker" for me, I would not choose to be friends with anyone who talked about other human beings as if they were objects and who disrespected the vulnerability of another person.

As someone else said I dont think its my brain as such which has normalised anything.

The fact is the great majority of women would find us sexually inadequate/pathetic/ridiculous/repulsive/comical.

Thats just the way it is.

Its similar to a women or man who has suffered extensive facial burns.

Its very difficult for a partner to overlook, sexually, facial disfigurement.

That said I do believe there are a small minority of women who are willing to date small men or disfigured men.

I also believe that some women dont have sexual enjoyment or compatibility high on their importance list.

But that list is quite small in my part of the world- but if I do ever meet someone- you guys will be the 1st to know…

[mts]

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