Victimorthecrime Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I saw something on you tube and then verified it on the internet that 2014 saw the first time in American history that there are more single than married adults. Of course they mostly blame men for being lazy porn addicted slobs but I think that for so many people their jobs just consume all available time and energy. At a certain point a person just needs to relax and not be worried about a date and all the time and energy that goes into that. And of course a guy who is out of work can pretty much forget it unless he is some kind of player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 like i've said before, it's a degenerative world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Klingsor Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Journalists are fucking sewer scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.allen Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 hey guys/res,Sorry I've been absent for a bit, was away for work for a while.I was just listening to this podcast in which they were talking about true happiness. The host made a good point that happiness isn't a point somewhere in the future, it's enjoying the moment. that's a hard thing to do, but I think it's very true.I don't think any of us on here will ever find true happiness outside of ourselves. Only through inner peace and doing what you believe in, and enjoying the process of doing it (as long as you aren't harming others). That being said, life isn't heaven either, you have to accept a lot of shitty things in life and injustices along the way. It's easy to swallow the bs that society shovels into you a lot of the time, but I think there's more to life than your career, or bank account, or sex life. These things offer intermittent happiness for sure, but lasting happiness? I highly doubt that. I think that more comes from how you feel about yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.allen Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 and can you change how you feel about yourself by changing material things in your life? Maybe a little, but not really. I think it just comes from going easy on yourself, growing as a person and learning to love who you are and what you can offer the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 hey, welcome back m; how have you been? i hope you're doing well.i'm afraid the core of my problems is that i immensely and intensely hate myself; namely my body, and that will never change as long as i'm in this world.regretfully, i have nothing to offer the world.my final thread: http://www.mentalsup.../9765-farewell/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.allen Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 hey res,didn't want to crap on your farewell parade with this, so i brought my debating self herethis: "and i'm sure it's the right call (considering that he's smart and competent)" quote of yours about what you would tell a friend in your situation just rings alarm bells for days for me.you're a logical guy, but what if the knowledge that you are logical and smart is blinding you from seeing that you might be wrong about something. basically, even smart, competent people like yourself make mistakes. How can you be sure it's the right call? are there not moments of happiness you still have in your life right now? could you not grow those moments into more frequent moments? moments into hours every day? days worth living for? a life worth living for?i know you feel like you've tried everything, but death is so final... I'm going to be blunt here, I hope I don't piss you off, and my apologies if I do... maybe it's selfish for me to want you to live, so I don't feel like I have your death on my hands or something in knowing that I didn't try really hard to convince you to stay. but, i also do genuinely feel like what you're doing is a mistake. based on what i know about you, it seems to me like you're pride and obsession with a concept is clouding your judgement. life isn't fair, but that doesn't mean you have to torture yourself over it. I feel like you're the victim of your own mind or something. or maybe i'm out of line here and being a dickhead. sorry, but i feel like drastic times y'know.also, feel free to tell me to shut my trap any time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 hey m; no need to shut your trap, lol.i'm afraid i never have any moments of actual happiness.the finality of death is what makes it so appealing. it's not another long shot attempt at yet another ineffectual "solution".maybe i am the victim of my mind, and that is the case, then nothing can change it short of a lobotomy, which i'm not too keen on. my only possible/imaginable "options" are: 1- lobotomy (i'll pass). 2- miracle (ya right). 3- death (achievable).if you can think of any other possibilities for 100% (or even 80%, maybe even 70% for the sake of argument) solution, don't hesitate to mention it. keep in mind that any solution you suggest must not cost any money, or take decades to reach the desired outcome.don't worry m, i won't haunt you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrmaJean Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Res, every time you mention that nothing can change it, you close yourself off to the possibilities. You have a rational mind, I understand and respect that. I have a feeling mind, but I know too that I could listen to ration more at times and learn from that. I do believe it is possible to change perception and views. Numbers and percentages can't always easily be applied when we are talking about human factors, such as feelings.Possibly adjusting your expectations could be helpful too? Does any problem have a 100% solution when it comes to our humanity?What would happiness look like for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 without getting too technical or philosophical, and without lengthy descriptions, i'd say that for me happiness is the complete absence of any physical or psychological (or any other possible type of) pain.if you were asking about what would constitute a happy life for me, let's just say it's too glamorous to describe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 the problem for me, beth, is that i consider anything below my standards {which comprises most things because my standards are so high (or rather other people's standards are so low, that it makes me seem extremely demanding and unrealistic)} in any area of life, a slap in the face, and a form of disrespect, and belittlement by god, the universe, mother nature, etc.. happiness would be not being belittled by god in any way, and just given what i believe i deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malign Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Wouldn't "not belittled by god" mean "equal to god"?That is a pretty high standard ...I mean, maybe in some sense, we all could be said to be equal to god, but I don't think that would satisfy you, res, would it, all of us being equal? Being as completely "successful" with women, for instance, as you describe needing to be, would imply that none of the rest of us were. That sounds like something with a lot of emotional overtones (anger at both men and women, among other things), rather than the logically detached, reasonable conclusion that you want to maintain that it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 wow malign, interesting post....i explained what i meant by "not being belittled by god" when i said "just given what i believe i deserve" which doesn't include being worshiped, or ultimate ruler of existence, etc. etc.; and i'm sure god doesn't need women or anything else....i never tried to maintain that my position has nothing to do with my emotions; on the contrary, it has everything to do with my feelings... i just try to make a case for it (what i feel) with logical reasoning. you are right however about me having a problem with all of us being equal, because someone with an iq of 62 isn't equal to einstein for instance, and should not be treated equally. besides, if everyone was completely successful with women etc., the concept would lose its value due to a ridiculous abundance, which is a chief determinant of how much value something has; rarity if you will. that's why diamonds are expensive, and dirt is cheap. and before you say, "well, then that's exactly why you can't have a, or b, or x, etc., because only some people can, so it doesn't lose its value due to abundance....", i say most people who have certain exclusive things are less deserving of them than many who don't, namely me , and therein lies the problem; the whole system is fucked up. most things people possess or lack are not based on merit, and that really pisses me off, malign. i would be perfectly happy if everyone was in their rightful place, not more not less. our world though, is unfortunately the exact opposite, and i simply can't come to terms with such ludicrousness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Klingsor Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Sigh. Nevermind. I thought this thread was relatively safe, I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 thx k-man. perhaps you and i can set some records in heaven being super players or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Klingsor Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.allen Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 besides, if everyone was completely successful with women etc., the concept would lose its value due to a ridiculous abundance, which is a chief determinant of how much value something has; rarity if you will. that's why diamonds are expensive, and dirt is cheap. and before you say, "well, then that's exactly why you can't have a, or b, or x, etc., because only some people can, so it doesn't lose its value due to abundance....", i say most people who have certain exclusive things are less deserving of them than many who don't, namely me , and therein lies the problem; the whole system is fucked up.an interesting thing about diamonds, is that they are actually not that rare, it's just that DeBeers has bought up the worlds diamond supply and convinced everyone that a shiny rock is worth a fortune. how can you blame solely the 'system' for this? this is equally our own fault. people have mutually agreed that diamonds -a rock that isn't even rare- is worth absurd amounts of money. I'm of the opinion that you have similarly convinced yourself that your life has no value without "diamonds"this 'system' that is 'fucked up' is something you are a part of. we all are to varying degrees. if you can admit that the system is fucked, then could you concede that your perception might have been warped by such a system in which you're a part of? i believe that true happiness comes from within. none of the things society often tells us are the routes to happiness are anything more than veiled hedonism. fuck if the tv knows what happiness is.and i also believe if you let yourself be happy res, then in time you will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 my internet has expired, and willl be disconnected in a couple of hours, so i won't be able to debate with you to my last breath unfortunately you might not be completely wrong m, but it's really out of my hands now. i have nothing left (not that i ever did), and i really can't handle any more failures, disappointments and humiliation.i'm not naive enough to actually think i can change anything in the world anymore. i know better now.anyway m, you've been a good friend, and i value this friendship. i will miss you my friend. goodbye, and i wish you the best in all your endeavors. take care man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 ya, tossed away food, what i always wanted; that, and sleeping under the stars. ability to breathe is amazing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolute Posted May 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 so you want it allyour way but w//o anyeffort, any pain....what a wasteof yourlifeken, i've been through pain that would b more than enough for ten lifetimes; so please don't say without any pain. i have also put in more effort -in making it work- than you can possibly imagine; that's why i know what is, and what isn't achievable. i also certainly know what i want, and i know i can't attain even a fraction of what i want. i'm not a waste of my life... my life is a waste of me, and my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrmaJean Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Don't know if you can or will see this...that's why i know what is, and what isn't achievable.Limiting oneself in the mind limits what one can accomplish in reality.i also certainly know what i want, and i know i can't attain even a fraction of what i want.There is no way to know what the future might bring as long as we are still here.i'm not a waste of my life... my life is a waste of me, and my time. I'm sorry you are in so much pain, res. :( There are ways to make changes in your life as long as you are still here. I hope you reach out for help.Please be safe. I am praying for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.allen Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 it's not completely out of your hands... please don't do it res.. I've valued this as well. Thanks, for all you've done.do you still have internet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.allen Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 i just wish i could take you outside your brain res, and show you it doesn't have to be this way... wherever you are.hope to hear from you again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.allen Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Gah, this is incredibly sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrmaJean Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Agreed. I hope resolute reaches out for help.Hope you are okay, m. allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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