Am I Small?

[Darren15]

you are lucky. i wish i was that long. i am only 5.3 inches and i have never measured my girth but i know it's not shit so no point in measuring. if i were your length i'd be out trying to fuck cuties left and right. i can't believe someone your length thinks they are small. if someone your length thinks they are small that just shows how size obsessed women are nowadays. i swear i want to try to have the mindset where i could careless what a bitch thinks about my size. fuck pleasing them sexually and being worried about if you are pleasuring them or not. as long as i get to bust my nut that's all that matters

5.3 is only 0.2 inches off what my opinion of average is. I doubt anybody is going to see that difference but I totally agree that I wish I could have that mindset of not caring, it's something that i will always want but never have (like a bigger penis aswell)

[Darren15]

you are lucky. i wish i was that long. i am only 5.3 inches and i have never measured my girth but i know it's not shit so no point in measuring. if i were your length i'd be out trying to fuck cuties left and right. i can't believe someone your length thinks they are small. if someone your length thinks they are small that just shows how size obsessed women are nowadays. i swear i want to try to have the mindset where i could careless what a bitch thinks about my size. fuck pleasing them sexually and being worried about if you are pleasuring them or not. as long as i get to bust my nut that's all that matters

5.3 is only 0.2 inches off what my opinion of average is. I doubt anybody is going to see that difference but I totally agree that I wish I could have that mindset of not caring, it's something that i will always want but never have (like a bigger penis aswell)

[Guest RandomDude]

Are any of those stats reliable? Or do they lie to try and ease mens fears and anxiety's?

That's a very fair question to ask. But there have been statistical studies carried out by (for example) condom manufacturers with a genuine aim of finding what sizes are out there. The average point is invariably somewhere around 14 cm (= 5.5 inches) with a concentration in the 13-15cm range.

I think there is much confusion about measurements because people use different techniques. Some people say you should ram the ruler right in to the pubic bone to get your measure, but I doubt whether these scientific studies are doing that. This could explain some peoples skepticism about the average being under 6 inches.

Anyway, for whatever it's worth; I'll add my voice to what others have said here. At 6.5 to 7 inches you are above average and have absolutely nothing at all to worry about.

[Victimorthecrime]

The BP done correctly just accounts for a small bit of fat around the base. Anyone adding more than 1/2 inch w BP is fooling themselves in my opinion.

All one can to add a bit of size is get physically fit so that good circulation gives you your best erection.

Beyond that we all just have to accept ourselves and focus on what we actually can do in life or risk complete misery and wasting precious time.

[Darren15]

The BP done correctly just accounts for a small bit of fat around the base. Anyone adding more than 1/2 inch w BP is fooling themselves in my opinion.

All one can to add a bit of size is get physically fit so that good circulation gives you your best erection.

Beyond that we all just have to accept ourselves and focus on what we actually can do in life or risk complete misery and wasting precious time.

Isn't the standard way of measuring using BP?

Some studies I've seen people post where they haven't used this has put the average nearer 5 inches than 6

[Guest RandomDude]

One thing we have to remember is that 'average' is just the middle of the scale, and variation (within certain limits) is totally normal. I heard somewhere that custom fit condom makers have established the 80:20 rule. In other words, that 80% of all guys are covered by just 20% of the size range.

I don't have the link, but I'm pretty sure it's 80% of all guys are between 12-16cm. And about 50% of all guys are between 13-15cm.

So yeah, 5 inches (=12.8cm) is completely within the range of normality, just maybe slightly on low side.

[Guest RandomDude]

Isn't the standard way of measuring using BP?

I don't know, to be honest.

I can understand why people would want to use BP though - because there is a real issue with abdominal fat. Nowadays lots of guys (even young guys) are overweight. That definitely does have an effect. I myself lost some weight a while back when I got into running - and I (re)gained literally about 1cm of penis shaft in the process.

[Darren15]

One thing we have to remember is that 'average' is just the middle of the scale, and variation (within certain limits) is totally normal. I heard somewhere that custom fit condom makers have established the 80:20 rule. In other words, that 80% of all guys are covered by just 20% of the size range.

I don't have the link, but I'm pretty sure it's 80% of all guys are between 12-16cm. And about 50% of all guys are between 13-15cm.

So yeah, 5 inches (=12.8cm) is completely within the range of normality, just maybe slightly on low side.

I've heard that 80% of men are between 4-6.5 inches erect, which is quite surprising how similar people really are. I personally just think saying i am 5 inches can be quite depressing but I guess that's partly due to people's blurred perception of size as a result of porn.

I have lost 0.25- 0.5 inches due to weight gain and whilst that isn't necessarily noticeable, it is a lot to me.

[Guest RandomDude]

Everyone says that there is an epidemic of weight gain/obesity in the Western world today - and I reckon that could well be one of the factors behind the rise in the number of males suffering from body image issues (including penis size related.)

There are other factors too. Ready availability of porn amongst adolescents skews perceptions of what is usual. And then there is an attitude among some sections of feminism that men are fair game to be denigrated, ridiculed, etc.

But it is true that many more people today are overweight/obese than used to be the case. And this is going to make a noticeable difference to amount of available penis. In an extreme case of super-overweight it might literally be the difference between 100% average and significantly below average.

This is important, I guess, because weight is one thing that we do have under our own control.

UPDATE

It occurs to me there is another phenomenon nowadays - the person who has always been overweight, both as a child, and right through adolescence, and into adulthood. Whereas in the past a person might have become very overweight in middle age (and known that their penis had become buried in flab) the person who has always been like this maybe wouldn't even know that they have a normal penis, and that it is the obesity which is the problem. Just a thought.

[Darren15]

Everyone says that there is an epidemic of weight gain/obesity in the Western world today - and I reckon that could well be one of the factors behind the rise in the number of males suffering from body image issues (including penis size related.)

There are other factors too. Ready availability of porn amongst adolescents skews perceptions of what is usual. And then there is an attitude among some sections of feminism that men are fair game to be denigrated, ridiculed, etc.

But it is true that many more people today are overweight/obese than used to be the case. And this is going to make a noticeable difference to amount of available penis. In an extreme case of super-overweight it might literally be the difference between 100% average and significantly below average.

This is important, I guess, because weight is one thing that we do have under our own control.

I think because the subject of weight has become such an issue, the BP/NBP measurements when working out these averages is critical.

I still believe whatever way you measure, the average still keeps popping up between 5-6 inches in nearly all the studies I've seen and care to pay attention of.

Not only does porn give a completely unrealistic Intepretation to men of what their bodies/penises should be like, but it gives women (mostly those who Havent seen a penis in real life or those lucky enough to have experienced just one or two of over 7 inches) grounds to ridicule men and set expectations stupidly high.

Social media is another cause of these fears men have of inadequacy but I chose to ignore certain things I see on the internet or YouTube because people can mock anything regardless of how stupid it may be

[Guest RandomDude]

Not only does porn give a completely unrealistic Intepretation to men of what their bodies/penises should be like, but it gives women (mostly those who Havent seen a penis in real life or those lucky enough to have experienced just one or two of over 7 inches) grounds to ridicule men and set expectations stupidly high.

I think most people, after reaching a certain age, do understand that porn sizes are way bigger than the usual range in real life.

But it is true that each girl is going to have a personal average. Ironically it's going to be the most promiscuous person (a prostitute even) who would have the best idea of what is normal.

If a girl has had e.g. 5 partners there could be a freak statistic going on - they could all have been approx. 7 or all approx. 5. (I think that's actually quite unlikely but it's not impossible.)

[Darren15]

I think most people, after reaching a certain age, do understand that porn sizes are way bigger than the usual range in real life.

But it is true that each girl is going to have a personal average. Ironically it's going to be the most promiscuous person (a prostitute even) who would have the best idea of what is normal.

If a girl has had e.g. 5 partners there could be a freak statistic going on - they could all have been approx. 7 or all approx. 5. (I think that's actually quite unlikely but it's not impossible.)

I guess that all comes down to perspective and personal experience which scared me as I always think everyone else is way bigger etc.

The average 5.5 incher could come come across an inexperienced girl who has only had 8 inches and she could think he's tiny but reality states he's average

[Guest RandomDude]

The average 5.5 incher could come come across an inexperienced girl who has only had 8 inches and she could think he's tiny but reality states he's average

It's possible.

But then again, she might actually be relieved to see 5.5 inches rather than 8 inches - especially if she were a smallish girl. (I mean, not all girls out there could even handle 8 inches without discomfort.)

[Darren15]

It's possible.

But then again, she might actually be relieved to see 5.5 inches rather than 8 inches - especially if she were a smallish girl. (I mean, not all girls out there could even handle 8 inches without discomfort.)

That's very true. But I would argue that most people have been brainwashed into thinking bigger is always better which isn't always the case.

I would love to know how common 4.5-6 inches actually is (fully erect)

[Darren15]

It's the never ending conveyor belt of SPS!

[Guest RandomDude]

It's the never ending conveyor belt of SPS!

Yeah, I guess this stuff has been discussed over and over on old threads. Maybe there is nothing new to say.

[Darren15]

Yeah, I guess this stuff has been discussed over and over on old threads. Maybe there is nothing new to say.

I guess, it's good for me to talk about it myself instead of reading other people's thoughts though.

[Victimorthecrime]

I chose to ignore certain things I see on the internet or YouTube because people can mock anything regardless of how stupid it may be

Agree. Internet is full of not just haters but pointless haters.

[Victimorthecrime]

Yeah, I guess this stuff has been discussed over and over on old threads. Maybe there is nothing new to say.

Yeah but that's how it is w anything. I just hate to young guys not having relationships w women because of it because there are ones that are ok w "below average" because they aren't perfect either and they know it.

[Guest RandomDude]

Yeah but that's how it is w anything. I just hate to young guys not having relationships w women because of it because there are ones that are ok w "below average" because they aren't perfect either and they know it.

Agree.

But you know something, I think there's a lot of fucked up paranoia going on in young guys heads about this thing. There are guys (like we see from the OP'er of this thread) who even have a good size, but they still feel like there is a problem. Then you get guys who measure and find that they are completely average, but then they start thinking, oh did I measure the right way? Or is the average really 5.5 inches? And such forth. It's like people are determined to have a problem.

[Darren15]

Agree.

But you know something, I think there's a lot of fucked up paranoia going on in young guys heads about this thing. There are guys (like we see from the OP'er of this thread) who even have a good size, but they still feel like there is a problem. Then you get guys who measure and find that they are completely average, but then they start thinking, oh did I measure the right way? Or is the average really 5.5 inches? And such forth. It's like people are determined to have a problem.

Pretty much my way of thinking, although i am actually under that average at 5-5.25 fully erect NBP.

Paranoia is a massive part of SPS and is not easy to get out of

[Darren15]

Oh guys, I never meant to undermine any discussion here. I was referring more to the turnover of members, precisely, mourning the ones we've lost. I enjoy reading your entries so keep up the in depth conversation! I'll pitch in where I can.

By no means did I think you were undermining any us. Good to see you occasionally keep up with the posts still and hope you are keeping well

[Guest RandomDude]

Pretty much my way of thinking, although i am actually under that average at 5-5.25 fully erect NBP.

Paranoia is a massive part of SPS and is not easy to get out of

Just over 5 inches, so about 13cm. This size is fine.

Easy to say, I know. But in fact, I think 13cm is not so uncommon a size.

[Darren15]

Just over 5 inches, so about 13cm. This size is fine.

Easy to say, I know. But in fact, I think 13cm is not so uncommon a size.

I know what the stats say but in my head everyone that isn't ridiculed is about near or above 6 inches - sps problems

[Guest RandomDude]

I know what the stats say but in my head everyone that isn't ridiculed is about near or above 6 inches - sps problems

That's why I find the OP'er on this thread interesting. Here we have a guy who is 6.5 inches (or even more with BP measure) but he still thinks he is too freaking small. To many of us it seems messed up that he would feel like that but he obviously does.

So in a way, this SPS shit isn't even connected to size. It's like, if you think you're too small then you are too small, no matter.