Maybe remaining where you are, gives you time to work out how to move forward, and the best way of doing so - damage limitation in a way perhaps?

IDK, Im possibly wayyy off as normal, my head is in a strange place itself - and has a lot of unusual ways of seeing things:rolleyes:

Well, the underlying problem in my life, that led to my depression and passivity and so on, is probably that I'm avoidant. I cleverly side-step any decision that comes along.

And sure, the intention is damage prevention, but the underlying assumption is that anything _I_ do will cause damage. At the root, it's self-esteem.

But so far, all I've had at the helm was either a tired old man (my father-image), or an idiot. Some time soon I'm going to have to take the responsibility for myself.

Dude, what are you smoking?

Um, I don't smoke.

*waves hands frantically to clear fumes*

... must've been my unconscious. :-P

And sure, the intention is damage prevention, but the underlying assumption is that anything _I_ do will cause damage.

For what it's worth, as much as I argue with you about....everything.... I don't see your input as damaging. Arguing and venting is actually helpful....it forces me to engage other parts of my brain... :cool:

It's worth a lot, Z, to know I'm not making things worse for you. {The statement quoted is my general feeling about me trying to solve my own problems, that I expect to make them worse.}

The funny thing is that my father and I used to have very similar "arguments". Only back then, I took the side you're taking. :-)

I think you assume too much about what I think.

Certainly possible. :-)

I hope you'll see that you're making assumptions about what I think, if you're calling my thinking a "religion".

my point exactly. You are assuming I'm calling your thinking a "religion". But then, I suppose we could have a grand argument about the definition of the word "religion" and decide that is the case afterall. Mostly I was just defending against the assumptions you were making about what you seemed to think I was thinking.

Yeah, must've been.

Sounds like a significant dream.

I thought you were thinking that. :-P

Please, Z. I may have made assumptions. I may have made wrong assumptions. Those I'll freely apologize for.

I came through a change of perspective, surviving my own death wish, and in some ways, I'm still exploring just how radical a shift it was.

Maybe the seat of command is calling you to it.

Self-esteem can be a tough one to change...

Just wanted to say hello.

Hi. :-)

Though now I'm gonna have a hard time sitting on something that's calling my naaaammmme! :-P

You should write a book of Mark quips. Or I should start screening my words for possible sarcastic responses. Could be good brain exercise.

Wow, is all I can say!

Most of mine aren't really "quips", Beth. I just visualize differently, I think. I love screening common phrases for their alternate meanings. It's how I relate to words, in a way. Plus, it uses extra bandwidth that might otherwise be bored.

It's never meant in a mean way.

I'm definitely "called" to command (of myself) in some way, but I've also spent a lifetime avoiding the call. I let the steward or the jester ;-) or some other part handle the request instead ...

Hi VA. :-)

I think it's possible to learn a lot about oneself from dreams. You just need a competent interpreter, and the only competent interpreter is the dreamer themselves. ;-)

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I know they aren't meant to be mean, Mark...maybe my word connotation was off again. Or my attempts to play back didn't go too well. maybe I should accept that I'm just not funny.

Pseud?

I heard you, Z.

It didn't kill me.

You could even be right, that I sometimes use humor to avoid.

I'll make an effort not to.