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Right, well I know you've already said you wouldn't do it, but if it's just about the sexy body and face then why not just pay for it? If all you want is just sex then it makes sense to just do that, if you feel you can't get it any other way.

haven't you been reading my posts?

1- "sex" isn't all i want, in itself. i want the sex, and the reputation of being a "ladies' man". i know i can't make you understand it, or accept that it's of any meaning or value, but it's what i want. i wanna be the guy who all the guys (or most) envy, and all the ladies (or most) want. i know it's stupid and unrealistic and..., but again, it's my deepest desire; and i know it's not in the cards for me.

also, this isn't by choice, and i can't change it.

2- an absolute must for me, in sex, is the woman's pleasure, and that the pleasure is her main reason for being with me, not money or.... and i repeat, i'm not talking about long term etc..

3- i'm broke, so even if i was into hookers, i can't afford even the cheapest of them.

i can live without a wife, love, kids, and some other things (not that i don't want these things, but i can live without them), but i can't live as an undesirable man, which is what i am.

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i can live without a wife, love, kids, and some other things (not that i don't want these things, but i can live without them), but i can't live as an undesirable man, which is what i am.

My 2 cents is that when when it comes to sex appeal (for a man or a woman) you either have it or you don't. I don't. There have been times in the past where I have managed a relationship, but like a back up quarterback, it was always just a matter of time before the first string guy suits up and I am back on the bench.

Getting dumped or having a relationship fail is brutal, some guys never really recover, and I think it is why I have not pursued a female in a long time.

The only good news for me is that I have pretty much quit drinking and am feeling physically better than i have been in a long time so that has raised my spirits but other than that life pretty much sucks, consisting of work and other misery. All I can do is my best and that is what I am trying to, not that it matters.

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I'll be honest, I've only briefly read posts lately as I don's go here as often. This place has a lot of negativity and it's good to get a brake from it.

And yes I do get it. I used to think this way, and once again it goes back to what I've mentioned before about it being constantly reinforced that if you're a man that doesn't have loads of women 1- admiring you, then there is something wrong with you. The thing is, even if you were capable of making this fantasy a reality, I suspect you wouldn't really be happy because what you want is based on being top dog. 2- That will not make you happy and it's not going to last forever anyway, especially more so being the best at sex.

3- Also, are you sure this isn't just you escaping from life by building this unrealistic fantasy? 4- I was reading your posts a few months back and you never posted things like this. Since you've messed up your career,project or whatever it was your were doing that didn't work out, you seem to have gone into this depression and this desperation mindset about sex and women. If things had worked out, would you have cared about these things as much? And if not, then maybe you need to get out and try and do something again.

1- it needs to be sexual admiration, not admiration for achievement or intellect or because i'm a "sweet guy" or honest, or....

2- it would make me happy, of course if everything was right. and i don't need it to last forever, a decade or two would've done the trick.

3- i honestly don't know, it's possible, but even if so, it's involuntary and on a subconscious level, and i still wouldn't be able to do anything about it.

4- actually, i've always had this mindset, but until a couple years ago i was somewhat less ambitious, and i had sort of accepted my crappy place on earth. now i don't know exactly how/why it happened, but since about two years ago, i developed this all or nothing mentality, and was kinda working on achieving the "all". i know it sounds ridiculous, but i actually thought i had a shot at getting close to the "all" (at least 80%). but as you can see, all my work, effort, money, time, patience, etc. got me zilch.

that was the straw that broke the camel's back. it was my last attempt at a life. i barely had any drive or motivation to begin with, it took all my strength, faith, hope, energy, etc. to give it one last shot, my best and final effort. needless to say, when i realized i was never gonna be anything, or get anywhere, i broke, again, for the last time. and when you break this badly, into millions of pieces, there's no way to pick up the pieces.

p.s., sorry for the negativity, but where else am i gonna bitch about things?

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"sex" isn't all i want, in itself. i want the sex, and the reputation of being a "ladies' man"

I think every guy would like that but I don't understand why it's such a big deal for you. I've always felt jealous of guys who get to sleep with lots of women. lots of gorgeous ones too but not to the point where it would have stopped me having whatever I could get.

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I think every guy would like that but I don't understand why it's such a big deal for you. I've always felt jealous of guys who get to sleep with lots of women. lots of gorgeous ones too but not to the point where it would have stopped me having whatever I could get.

i don't fully understand it either, but i know that my ego is at zero, and has been for a long time, and the only thing that would fix me is getting my ego way up, and keeping it there. settling for scraps does the opposite for me. it only affirms and reinforces my worthlessness.

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1- What would the 80 year old version of yourself tell you, if he could talk to you? "Live your life" or "Keep up what you're doing?" 2- Are you doing yourself justice?

1- the 80 year old version of myself would say: "why the fuck haven't you killed me/yourself yet?"

2- i've done myself more than justice; i've spared no expense, left no stone unturned, did whatever i can, but none of it was enough. i have nothing left in me; i've used up even the fumes.

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1- Is there nowhere you can begin? A place to slowly build, one piece at a time, until eventually you're out in the world to experience at least some of what it offers? Although it may be worse than what most have, isn't it abundantly more than what you currently have? 2- It seems that you've locked yourself inside a mental prison, refusing to show your broken self to the world.

3- What if this prison becomes your tomb? What if, you never quite achieve this fantasy man you wish to become? Is it worth living your life this way? 4- Isn't a little better than nothing? Perhaps it's wiser if you embraced this feeling of "worthlessness", dust yourself off and keep walking? Isn't it better than the unwillingness to face where you are?

1- i'm crippled by depression and physical health problems. i have absolutely no will, drive, or motivation to do anything. and again, this isn't my first rodeo, i'm just completely worn-out and drained.

2- i think you missed the part about "this approach" being out of my hands.

3- again, my circumstances are not by choice. neither is my mentality. and no one consulted me before bringing me into this shithole. i was created without my consent.

4- to me 10% is worse than 0%, why? two reasons: 1- requires less work, energy, effort, etc.. 2- taking a stand and making a statement: "i refuse this shitty life, god, and 5%, 10%, or 15% "happiness" won't cut it. i really believe i deserve better, and i can't settle for something that's one billionth of what i deserve.

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Hi guys, been gone for awhile. I see some members are still seeking out and posting studies that confirm their sense of inferiority.

Here's the truth, and we all know it already, there's no need to consult blogs and studies: most women today care about size to some degree or another, that's just life. There's really nothing that we can do about it but train ourselves not to give a sh** and get laid however we can. That's it, there ya go. None of this will matter when we're dead, so go get some.

Me, as I posted before several months ago, I've found Craigslist useful for this purpose. The type of women to aim for are those with more problems than ourselves-- women with low self-esteem-- heavy women, unattractive women, disabled women (thats right, handicapped women)etc., etc. They need (and are worthy of)love and affection too..and I've found that lonely women with significant personal problems are often more accepting than others. Also, letting potential partners know about your sexual issue is much easier to do anonymously on-line--I usually do it from the get-go in a humorous kind of way. That way there are no surprises when/if you meet and the pants drop. I've even had chicks offer to teach me techniques to help me compensate for my shortcoming. On the other hand, I've had women reject me as soon as they found out.

Really , no amount of beating ourselves up is going to solve anything . Acceptance and adapting to the situation is the key. None of us will ever be studs but creating a somewhat okay life worth living is indeed possible. Believe it or not, there are other people with different problems whom would love to trade places with us. Being alive is amazing, don't waste your days crying/whining/hating yourselves . Get in where you fit in and make the best of it.

Try meditation--it has worked miracles for me.

P.S Don't get the wrong ideas, wasn't suggesting that all heavy, disabled, or unattractive women have low self-esteem and/or are desperate lol.

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Me, as I posted before several months ago, I've found Craigslist useful for this purpose. The type of women to aim for are those with more problems than ourselves-- women with low self-esteem-- heavy women, unattractive women, disabled women (thats right, handicapped women)etc., etc.

LOL can't wait to see how resolute reacts to this statement.

To be honest I'm with him. I don't think I need to lower my standards THAT much.

I have to find the woman somewhat attractive or there's not much point to it.

Plus you're ignoring the fact that most heavy, unattractive and disabled women like big cocks too.

I've had no luck on CL at all. Most posts on there are fake. Then you get a good deal of prostitutes. Then you get the few real women looking for sex but they all want young, good looking and hung guys. Then you get a small group of weirdos.

Let's face it women no matter who they are or what they look like, don't want to hook up with guys with small dicks.

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Hi guys, been gone for awhile. I see some members are still seeking out and posting studies that confirm their sense of inferiority.

Here's the truth, and we all know it already, there's no need to consult blogs and studies: most women today care about size to some degree or another, that's just life. There's really nothing that we can do about it but train ourselves not to give a sh** and get laid however we can. That's it, there ya go. None of this will matter when we're dead, so go get some.

Me, as I posted before several months ago, I've found Craigslist useful for this purpose. The type of women to aim for are those with more problems than ourselves-- women with low self-esteem-- heavy women, unattractive women, disabled women (thats right, handicapped women)etc., etc. They need (and are worthy of)love and affection too..and I've found that lonely women with significant personal problems are often more accepting than others. Also, letting potential partners know about your sexual issue is much easier to do anonymously on-line--I usually do it from the get-go in a humorous kind of way. That way there are no surprises when/if you meet and the pants drop. I've even had chicks offer to teach me techniques to help me compensate for my shortcoming. On the other hand, I've had women reject me as soon as they found out.

Really , no amount of beating ourselves up is going to solve anything . Acceptance and adapting to the situation is the key. None of us will ever be studs but creating a somewhat okay life worth living is indeed possible. Believe it or not, there are other people with different problems whom would love to trade places with us. Being alive is amazing, don't waste your days crying/whining/hating yourselves . Get in where you fit in and make the best of it.

Try meditation--it has worked miracles for me.

P.S Don't get the wrong ideas, wasn't suggesting that all heavy, disabled, or unattractive women have low self-esteem and/or are desperate lol.

1- LOL can't wait to see how resolute reacts to this statement.

2- To be honest I'm with him. I don't think I need to lower my standards THAT much.

I have to find the woman somewhat attractive or there's not much point to it.

Plus you're ignoring the fact that most heavy, unattractive and disabled women like big cocks too.

I've had no luck on CL at all. Most posts on there are fake. Then you get a good deal of prostitutes. Then you get the few real women looking for sex but they all want young, good looking and hung guys. Then you get a small group of weirdos.

Let's face it women no matter who they are or what they look like, don't want to hook up with guys with small dicks.

1- thanks for thinking of me, glenn. as to my reaction, well, from what i remember from frank's old posts, he's quite an attractive fellow who works out a lot, and hence has a great body. if i'm not mistaken, he's had women hit on him in the past, so he has a definite advantage there. and going after women with lower attributes only enhances his chances.

in addition to that, i believe that every person has a certain "aura" that is either positive, very positive, or negative, very negative. in many cases, there isn't a damn thing one can do about it. it's what determines a person's good or bad fortune, his circumstances, and a big part of his life, and plays a major role in one's destiny.

2- i generally agree with your points.

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You don't really have to aim THAT low, I was just pointing out that the women in those groups tend to be more accepting, that's all. And its like this: being with women whom have problems is much better than being alone--trust me on that one. A warm body is much better than one's hand.

And sure, I'm reasonably attractive and have been lifting weights for years, but this has actually created a bigger burden (believe it or not) because I tend ro attract the shallow size-queen types---the type of women that I want but could never keep because of my inability to deliver the goods. Petty girls hit on me and I turn them away--its a curse, a constant reminder of the awesome life I would have enjoyed had things been different .

As for CL, guess it depends on the area you live in. Me, I have fun with it. Sure, I get weirdos but sometimes they're fun too .

Look, if nothing else, you have control over how you respond to life-- we choose how we play the cards we've been dealt. Spending your time obcessing over the size of your penis creates un-neccessary grief.

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Resolute, maybe you could seek out girls with daddy issues (strippers are a good bunch). Find out what cologne he wore, and treat her like shit. This, in theory, is like the bestest idea ever. She'll probably cream her little french knickers everytime you tell her that her coffee tastes like shit. Hehe.

maybe when i become a millionaire, i'll hire you as a consultant. your job would be finding or identifying potential lovers for me, and suggesting strategies to help me get in their pants. interested?

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You know from my perspective, the women who often tend to post mocking, disrespectful or have high standards about size, tend to be not that attractive. At least the the videos Jessie puts up, none of these women are anything but ordinary, and I don't say that with any bias because of what they're saying.

A lot of size queens also tend to be either overweight or really big.

Sure, there are size queens amongst all women, however I'm simply telling you about the types I've had the best luck with. I simply post my ads on CL (usually leaving nothing out), and then replies start rolling in, stuff like "honey , there's other ways to please a woman, blah blah blah", next thing ya know we're exchanging texts and striking up a friendship ....and then, if all goes well, I end up in her bed, lol.

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Sure, there are size queens amongst all women, however I'm simply telling you about the types I've had the best luck with. I simply post my ads on CL (usually leaving nothing out), and then replies start rolling in, stuff like "honey , there's other ways to please a woman, blah blah blah", next thing ya know we're exchanging texts and striking up a friendship ....and then, if all goes well, I end up in her bed, lol.

Where do you posts your ads (dating section or casual connections). I've posted stuff in casual connections many times and got no replies except the bots fishing for emails addresses. No real women reply. Being good looking helps. I'm pretty fat so that is a big no no for a lot of women.

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Look, if nothing else, you have control over how you respond to life-- we choose how we play the cards we've been dealt. Spending your time obcessing over the size of your penis creates un-neccessary grief.

Well said. It took me far too long to fully understand what it means to look at the facts of a situation. It may sound simple but few do it. Most people either reject, freak out, or obsess when confronted with an unpleasant fact.

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This is typical of the ads you see by women on CL and why the pickings are slim for guys like me.

woman in Empty House!!! - w4m

white female looking for in shape White male .must be clean, non pushy, and have... a nice package.I work long hours and have a kid I raise so I'm busy a lot and I would like to meet a guy

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Let's face it women no matter who they are or what they look like, don't want to hook up with guys with small dicks.

I beg to differ. I met this an attractive woman at Starbucks. Turns out she's a clinical psychologist and

she and I share the same nationality (I wasn't born in this country). I was somewhat nervous, but she was so

sweet, so when she invited me

back to her place, I thought about this forum and how I don't want to spend the rest of my life posting

on it lol, so I said WTF. I learned a few tricks with the escorts, like how to give women the most intense

orgasms they can ever experience-squirting orgasms. I'm not talking a few moans and groans. I'm talking

her eyes rolling to the back of her head, her entire body convulsing with ecstasy right before she squirts,

and her being incoherent for several minutes afterwards. Needless to say, If you're the first guy to give

a woman what 80% of the women out there have never even experienced, you're gold. You can call

it compensating, but this woman was texting me the next morning asking when she can see me again:) Contrary to popular belief, any sexually healthy woman can have a squirting orgasm. Guys

have a prostate gland; Women have the Skenes Gland, part of the Urethral sponge, if I'm not mistaken. Anyway the science/anatomy is not as important as the result. Smaller guys are at an ADVANTAGE here, as the bigger guys often miss the "squirt spot" because of it's location.

P.S. I am not trying to brag, but when people start talking about sleeping with handicapped people,

I think the size of their penis is the least of their problems.

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