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You've got to look at them as more then just an object you can't have. We've been conditioned to view women as just this thing to fuck and nothing else. Doesn't matter what she is as a person, she's got a nice ass and tits, that'll do. It's this type of mindset why many men are miserable.

Just forget about the sex thing. Talk to them as more then just that, that's not to say you won't find them attractive because you will. But if you view it as " I can't have her " "I can't have her " then you will be depressed. Because there's a lot of physically beautiful women out there and you won't be having sex with 99.9% of them, and that's including if you're rich and famous.

look, skynight, we were "conditioned" by god and nature (not the media etc.) to be in "fuck mode" when we see (or hear, smell, sense, etc.) an attractive female. that's not to say we have no will power, but our primitive instincts and desires are to nail that female.

i'm not saying that the media, governments, etc. aren't pushing sex, alcohol, and a million other things on people, but to suggest that governments or the media custom built 99.99% of heterosexual males on the planet to be so attracted sexually to women, is somewhat ludicrous.

men have been insanely attracted to women (specially babes) since the beginning of mankind, before any the media, governments, or outside "conditioning" of any kind even existed.

so, yes, when i see a hottie, all i can think about is me plowing her, or her blowing me. ;) and as another poster mentioned not long ago, we (men) don't need more "friends", specially female ones. what we need is more "fuck-buddies". i'm paraphrasing of course.

another factor to consider is that for (some) men, it's not just about sex per se, or strictly sexual gratification, it's also about power and competition among males (i'm sure klingsor would agree). so basically, the more females you have, have had, or can have, the higher your status; at least in some ways. of course it's not just about quantity, but quality as well. and by quality i don't necessarily mean "good/decent women", but vixens.

a lot of this applies not only to humans, but to animals as well.

and before you bring up the "frequent ejaculation is bad" argument, let me be the first to say, i know, but that doesn't change anything.

anyway, i know some might read this and say "what the hell is this guy talking about?", but i'm sure some of you get it.

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does it make a difference? Under 5 is struggling with a handicap. Which I am. But I still made shit happen. And my dick fluctuates with my announced size being at its peak which I rarely have. Where's your question going? I think I have an idea.

We all know where I am going with this - how thick at its widest point?

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I didn't see anything particularly bad with those two clips. I thought the guy in the first one was gay. He sure looks like it.

I don't care what he thinks anyway. She didn't seem to say anything different than what most women say.

The second clip, I don't know who she is. Is she a porn star? everything she said was complete bollocks. I'm 6' and I don't have a big dick. Dick size has nothing to do with anything. People can try and make these stupid correlations but they amount to nothing.

I just hate it when people start throwing around generalizations. Women want this, women want that. What women? have you asked them all? there are plenty of women dating shorter guys. Almost all the girls I've liked in my life have ended up with guys shorter than me.

To some degree women prefer taller bigger guys the same way a lot of guys (like myself) prefer shorter petite women. So what?

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look, skynight, we were "conditioned" by god and nature (not the media etc.) to be in "fuck mode" when we see (or hear, smell, sense, etc.) an attractive female. that's not to say we have no will power, but our primitive instincts and desires are to nail that female.

i'm not saying that the media, governments, etc. aren't pushing sex, alcohol, and a million other things on people, but to suggest that governments or the media custom built 99.99% of heterosexual males on the planet to be so attracted sexually to women, is somewhat ludicrous.

men have been insanely attracted to women (specially babes) since the beginning of mankind, before any the media, governments, or outside "conditioning" of any kind even existed.

Of course we're all programed to want sex. Women are too but I think what he was trying to say is to try and not see women as a vagina with a body attached to it. Women are just women. They have their frailties and insecurities too.

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Also you mention we were conditioned by God to be in fuck mode. Yet pretty much all the religious texts mention lust as one of the worst sins.

i might reply to the rest of your post later, but for now this:

i don't know what you mean by lust being a sin in religious texts. if you mean lust as in "desire" being a sin, then that would be very stupid of any religion to condemn thought, feelings, emotions, instincts, etc.. condemning actions, that's a different matter. so i can accept that many religions consider acting on certain impulses, such as lust, to be a sin (such as sex out of wedlock etc.), but the mere presence of lust in/on one's mind (or elsewhere ;) ), can't be considered a sin in itself.

Regardless of what you're beliefs are, when was lust ever a good thing? More often then not, the person lusting after another doesn't get that get sex from the person they're lusting after anyway, so 1. it's a waste of time and a distraction 2. then you get all these other emotions from it like anger, stress. 3. You may end up feeling inferior to women or hating them. Lust will take a man down , which is why it's everywhere. And every man has lust to some extent, but when it get's out of control you have to deal with it or it will deal with you.

the same could be said for everything else, like wanting money, power, looks, health, , love, status, fame, respect, comfort, ....

anything a person wants and can't get, can have negative or even devastating consequences, not just lust. of course the extent to which one would be hurt if he/she can't get what they want, depends greatly on how badly they want that thing.

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snapback.pngresolute, on 09 January 2015 - 07:32 PM, said:

"i might reply to the rest of your post later, but for now this:

i don't know what you mean by lust being a sin in religious texts. if you mean lust as in "desire" being a sin, then that would be very stupid of any religion to condemn thought, feelings, emotions, instincts, etc.. condemning actions, that's a different matter. so i can accept that many religions consider acting on certain impulses, such as lust, to be a sin (such as sex out of wedlock etc.), but the mere presence of lust in/on one's mind (or elsewhere ;) ), can't be considered a sin in itself."

You read the bible so you would know this quote. "You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY'; 28but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29"If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.…

Now if you're single you haven't committed adultery. But according to the Bible thinking it is just as bad. Lust comes from thoughts first right?

snapback.pngresolute, on 09 January 2015 - 07:32 PM, said:

"the same could be said for everything else, like wanting money, power, looks, health, , love, status, fame, respect, comfort, ....

anything a person wants and can't get, can have negative or even devastating consequences, not just lust. of course the extent to which one would be hurt if he/she can't get what they want, depends greatly on how badly they want that thing."

Yes indeed. But I would say that wanting sex with women so bad that you feel like crap around beautiful women is taking it to the extreme. But you're telling me that's natural, at least that what it seemed you were implying. And I know you're going through a hard time at the moment resolute and you're entitled to feel how you want, and it may seem like I'm getting on your case, but I'm just trying to help. Even if I do come across as arrogant, which I'm trying not to do. I don't know all the answers, but thinking that way isn't the solution. Well that's how I see it anyway.

you're not getting on my case, and you don't seem arrogant to me.

first of all, i don't care what the bible says. besides that, you gotta be able to interpret these scripts.

my interpretation is that many things aren't meant literally, but are symbolic. so no one is actually encouraged to take out their own eyes etc..

as for adultery in the heart, i think they're just trying to say, don't look at anyone (to whom you're not married) with lust, because it's a precursor to actual adultery. and even in the even it doesn't lead to that, it causes other problems.

my point stands, actions can be a sin, while thoughts, feelings etc. can't. looking at someone with lust is an action. the problem i'm referring to, is not an action, one needn't even stare at a beauty to lust for her. knowing (in any way and by any means) that she is there, is enough to cause immense pressure for some men. unbearable and torturous.

"But I would say that wanting sex with women so bad that you feel like crap around beautiful women is taking it to the extreme. But you're telling me that's natural, at least that what it seemed you were implying." the extent to which each man is attracted to "beautiful women" is very different from one man to another, but yes, i'm saying that most of it is in fact "natural", meaning genetic or biological. call it what you want, the point is, it's not really in a person's control or by choice. i feel like crap around beautiful women only because i was ill-equipped by god and nature to enjoy them (or at least some of them).

god does this kinda thing all the time. not to everyone, but to some/many. giving one person a great digestive system while depriving him of food, and giving another person enough food to feed an army, while taking away his health and his ability to eat and digest properly. i know there's wisdom and purpose in it somewhere, but i'm just not getting it.

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You know the way some of you guys talk in your posts reminds me of that kid Elliot Rodgers who killed six people and injured thirteen others before committing suicide in Isla Vista, California last year.

If you read his manifesto it sounds just like a lot of the stuff you guys post.

I'm not saying you guys are going to end up the same way he did but the comparisons in the feelings and thoughts you share is strikingly similar.

If you haven't read it you should. You might see some of yourself in it.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/225936731/Untitled

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I'm not sure if his penis size ever figured into his feelings of inferiority. His height surely did. He was half Asian so it very well could have been a factor.

“All I ever wanted was to fit in and live a happy life amongst humanity, but I was cast out and rejected, forced to endure an existence of loneliness and insignificance, all because the females of the human species were incapable of seeing the value in me.”

“My orchestration of the Day of Retribution is my attempt to do everything, in my power, to destroy everything I cannot have. All of those beautiful girls I’ve desired so much in my life, but can never have because they despise and loathe me, I will destroy. All of those popular people who live hedonistic lives of pleasure, I will destroy, because they never accepted me as one of them. I will kill them all and make them suffer, just as they have made me suffer. It is only fair.”

“Why do things have to be this way? I’m sure that is the question everyone will be asking after the Day of Retribution is over. They will all be asking why. Indeed, why? That is the question I’ve had for everyone throughout all my years of suffering. Why was I condemned to live a life of misery and worthlessness while other men were able to experience the pleasures of sex and love with women? Why do things have to be this way? I ask all of you. All I ever wanted was to love women, and in turn to be loved by them back. Their behavior towards me has only earned my hatred, and rightfully so! I am the true victim in all of this. I am the good guy.”

“I developed a very high sex drive, and it would always remain like this. This was the start of hell for me. Going through puberty utterly doomed my existence. It condemned me to live a life of suffering and unfulfilled desires. Even at that young age, I felt depressed because I wanted sex, yet I felt unworthy of it. I didn’t think I was ever going to experience sex in reality, and I was right. I never did. I was finally interested in girls, but there was no way I could ever get them. And so my starvation began.

“Some boys randomly pushed me against the lockers as they walked past me in the hall. One boy who was tall and had blonde hair called me a “loser”, right in front of his girlfriends. Yes, he had girls with him. Pretty girls. And they didn’t seem to mind that he was such an evil bastard. In fact, I bet they liked him for it. This is how girls are, and I was starting to realize it. This was what truly opened my eyes to how brutal the world is. The most meanest and depraved of men come out on top, and women flock to these men. Their evil acts are rewarded by women; while the good, decent men are laughed at. It is sick, twisted, and wrong in every way. I hated the girls even more than the bullies because of this.

“All while I was suffering this lonely existence, other boys my age lived their happy lives of pleasure and sex. I can never forgive such an injustice, and it was my bid to overcompensate for it in the future. I had to make up for all the years I lost in loneliness and isolation, through no fault of my own! It was society’s fault for rejecting me. It was women’s fault for refusing to

have sex with me.”

“Females truly have something mentally wrong with them. Their minds are flawed, and at this point in my life I was beginning to see it. The more I explored my college town of Isla Vista, the more ridiculousness I witnessed. All of the hot, beautiful girls walked around with obnoxious, tough jock-type men who partied all the time and acted crazy. They should be going for intelligent gentlemen such as myself. Women are sexually attracted to the wrong type of man. This is a major flaw in the very foundation of humanity. It is completely and utterly wrong, in every sense of the word.

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It's natural to find women sexually attractive, beautiful and to even be aroused. But it isn't natural to be in a constant state of lust and needing sex and feeling bad when you don;t get it. The reason why men are this way is because it's shoved in our face 24/7 and we're told we need it to feel good about ourselves.

it's not just about lust, skynight. it's about validation.

i know a person "shouldn't" need validation from others, but unfortunately in this crappy reality, most of us do.

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Well if you're with a woman then of course you and her should both care about one another. But this idea of needing all these beautiful women to find you attractive to feel good is just crazy. 1- Many of these women have not much about them apart from a sexy body, which won't last forever. 2- What is it with so many modern men treating women like they're some type of goddess, that they have to do all these things to impress a woman to feel good?

1- a sexy face and body is all i need (again, not talking about long term, or love, marriage, etc.).

2- i wouldn't call myself a "modern man", more like an aducated and refined caveman.

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1- a sexy face and body is all i need (again, not talking about long term, or love, marriage, etc.).

2- i wouldn't call myself a "modern man", more like an aducated and refined caveman.

Sorry if I've asked this before, it's hard keeping up with who is who etc.

What is your dating or sex life history like?

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