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wow being a woman in this thread is really unsettling. if you speak about women in such a derogatory way (I'm sure your view of women is informed by your distrust and past experiences, but still), how can you expect a woman to treat you well or give you a fair shake? you can't make overarching generalizations about women, you'll write a nice woman off who will care about how you are as a person because you think she will either want money or a big penis. I'm sorry that women have been so horrible to you or other men in this forum in the past, but there are women out there who aren't like that. i'm sure my fiance would agree

Don't take it personal. The members here only get to vent here. You get a lot of crap thrown at you all day, and have to hold it in. Here we can just say crap, and let it out. Although I'm doubting its helpfulness. I end up feeling worse sometimes.

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This is pretty much the only place I can vent. I think it has helped a bit.

Might have saved me wrecking my flat a few times (though not every time-ha)

On the whole girls havent disrespected me- I have carefully selected my partners.

Even though my size caused them to leave they were loving, decent girls.

If I had picked nasty girls I probably would have committed suicide many years ago- I'm sure I couldnt have coped with sneers or humiliation.

People vary- there are some nice girls out there.

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Your husband hit the lottery. You've only slept with him.

I've thought the same thing. If you have any testosterone, you're competitive. When you marry today, you're competing with every other guy she's been intimate with. This isn't P.C., but it's a fact that isn't going to change soon.

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Sorry for being insensitive , I'm pretty new here. you're right I shouldn't have taken it personally. This is a place where you should be able to vent freely, I hope it brings you all some benefit

No, don't be sorry. Please don't. I was just explaining why crazy stuff is said. Your not being insensitive, your being great :)

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According to Psychology Today detailed studies the more conventionally attractive the girl the more she thinks size is important.

and its a very significant trend.

Also I read in several journals there is no real correlation with female body size and the size of their 'spaces'.

Any viewers of porn will know that extremely petite girls are capable of taking remarkable lengths and girths with ease.

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I've thought the same thing. If you have any testosterone, you're competitive. When you marry today, you're competing with every other guy she's been intimate with. This isn't P.C., but it's a fact that isn't going to change soon.

Ding ding. That's what women don't get. I've been told to just "get over it"

Which is why I bring up the topic of infertile women. Could you imagine I told me SO that if she couldn't get pregnant to just "get over it"

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It's a silly thing to be competitive about. If she's with you then you're the one she wants to be with. Also women could be the same way about this. What if your previous girlfriend had huge tits? for example

We'll if my gf was concerned about that she could get implants. Problem solved aye?

And why is it silly to be competitive about? If it was so silly plenty of us wouldn't be here.

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According to Psychology Today detailed studies the more conventionally attractive the girl the more she thinks size is important.

and its a very significant trend.

Also I read in several journals there is no real correlation with female body size and the size of their 'spaces'.

Any viewers of porn will know that extremely petite girls are capable of taking remarkable lengths and girths with ease.

No I've watched interviews with porn stars and they it's uncomfortable. I'm sure some like it, but a lot say its not enjoyable. It's their job.

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This could be true lol since they are so big small penis cant even penetrate the first fat roll, not to mention making it to the veg...but I think those are sizer Queens out of necessity lol

As a guy who struggles with how the world perceives the value of his body, I take offense to statements like this. I know you are joking, but hurting other never makes yourself feel better in the long run. A society that makes large judgements on a person's worth based on pure aesthetics is not a kind world for anyone, especially those of us who are below average. No matter how overweight or not, these women are entitled to their sexual preferences just as I am allowed to be attracted to Kate Upton breasts even though I am not conventionally attractive.

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I'll tell you why it's silly. Because it's all based on your ego." I have to be the best lover! ", " I have to have the biggest dick so I can fuck her the hardest she's ever had"! " I'm more of a man, she'll think of me as more of a real man if my dicks bigger"!

None of it means shit. Why does it matter really? If men stopped this competitive childish shit and just looked as sex as their time to have some fun, then maybe their wouldn't be so much stress. Sex is supposed to be fun not a competitive sport.You're not going to make your penis bigger anyway, you can only change your attitude ( that's aimed at anyone with that mindset, not you personally). So the worst case scenario, your GF has been fucked by a bigger penis and she enjoyed it more. So what, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest and that's the truth. What's the point in being all upset about it? What's it's gonna achieve apart from make me miserable?

Skynight, I'm glad it doesn't bother you...really. But it bothers the hell out of me. Basically what I'm getting out of your post when boiled down is.....you can't change it, so GET OVER IT.

Thanks for that friend, but that's not going to happen.

And I'd like to set the record straight on one thing. Look through my past posts. NO where have I said I wanted to be her biggest. She told me once she'd been with a guy so big she was sore when she walked the next day.(*see my note below) I don't want to be stupid big, just big enough to be the BEST guy she's been with, whatever that size happens to be. Not the first, not the tallest, not the one who could last all night and certainly not the biggest, just the best. Her opinion matters to me above all others. I want to be her 'hero', her white knight. (Yes, even sexually)

What's wrong with that? All I ever asked out of the gods, fate or whatever higher thing there is, is to be ONE womans best. Out of all the billions of women in the world, out of the millions here in the US, out of the thousands here in Indiana, out of the hundreds here locally, JUST ONES best.

I never wanted to be a local stud who swaggers into a bar or party. I didn't want a (sexual) reputation. I never wanted 20 or 30 notches in my headboard or belt to show my conquests. Didn't care of the ladies gasped or shot knowing looks at each other when I walked into a room.

All I ever wanted was to be one womans best, my wife. And I will never be....and YES, that bothers me.

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*I had to ask what it is about a huge penis that a lot of women just have to try it out. I asked her why didn't you just say no, you knew it was going to hurt. I said what is it, you ladies competitive nature that force you to go head with this? Like a sexual 'pissing contest'? "Yeah, NO man's so big I can't accommodate him!!" She just shrugged.........oh well.

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Because to be honest, you're after a very unlikely fantasy. Now if you were her first, it might work out that way. The reality is you wanting to be the best is hindering you. Is she the best women you've ever been with? Is she the most attractive looking women you've ever seen in the world? Do you have fantasies about having sex with other women? And if so should she feel insecure about that?

And why do you want to be her white knight? Why does any of this really matter? It's almost like it's some idealized romance. You put too much pressure on yourself to be best and have way too much expectations on your partner also that they will see you that way. It makes you miserable and achieves nothing, because in your desire to be the best lover, you put more pressure on yourself and more then likely could end up being her one or her worst because you base your self-esteem on how good a lover you are. If you forgot about it, relaxed, chill out a bit, things would turn out better and instead of being the best this or best that, just enjoy it and stop stressing.

Easier said then done, but it's the way to go.

Yes, she is the best I've ever been with. She's very good looking, too.

There's a lot in your post I see as completely correct. But there's some I can't agree with.

But you're right, this has made me miserable. I wish in a way I'd never went on that first date with her. I knew from the start I just wasn't at the same level as her other guys. A lot of friends tried to talk me and her out of a relationship, but I wouldn't listen. I "F"ed with fire and now regret it.

I haven't had sex in 7 years. Basically since the therapist fell through. Not having sex was totally my choice, my coping mechanism. If I stay away from it, it can't bother me anymore. (or so I thought)

But I can't not care. It just doesn't work that way. It's all or nothing. Since it's not all, it's been nothing.

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Is it possible to both have sad feelings about one's body and to live as happily as possible given the situation? I'd like to think so.

For us SPS guys there are 2 choices: find a girl that accepts us for who we are (and we do the same for her) or live as happily as possible w/o a relationship.

Just sharing my thoughts, best wishes to all.

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Oh...ok...thats a great prize...for both of you. You find an amazing beautiful wife that loves you for you....and you choose to obsess about other men and NOT have sex with your wife. Wow. lucky woman.

Younhave some seriously flawed thinking there Retro. Its too bad, cus most here would say your the luckiest guy, and you cant even see it or cherish it and enjoy it...cus your too busy obsessing about Other MEN.

Most on the forum are distressed because they think they will never find love or happiness. You won the lottery, and you cant even see it.

Thats the saddest thing ever.

At least i hope you r an example to the other single folks here.... Once you find true love, dont be so shallow and foolish as to squander it.

But you can never know if they really like you, and sex with you. That's the problem.

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I haven't had sex in 7 years. Basically since the therapist fell through. Not having sex was totally my choice, my coping mechanism. If I stay away from it, it can't bother me anymore. (or so I thought)

But I can't not care. It just doesn't work that way. It's all or nothing. Since it's not all, it's been nothing.

Are you still married?

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Dvn-

But you can never know if they really like you, and sex with you. That's the problem.

Thats tru of every single human interaction. So is that how you choose to approach the whole world, that you can never KNOW with absolute certainty what someone else is actually thinking?

Especially your significant other? Trust seems like its pretty crucial to a successful loving relationship.... Way more critical than genital size.

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It's kind of hard to not want to be the best when society straight across the board makes you a laughing stock. Oprah doesn't sit down with small penised men and empower them. There's no colored ribbon for small penises. Porn in small penises is geared towards humiliation. My own gf finds small penises funny, hell everyone in the comedy club that night thought it was funny.

Couple that with a few shitty experiences growing up and it's horrible what gets drilled into your head since you're in your preteens and you realize what's going on.

God for fucking bid I want to be my gf's best.

God for fucking bid I want to give my gf amazing orgasms.

Btw what happens when I get married to a woman who doesn't think I'm her best. Pity sex? No sex? Can't wait to find out.

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